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re: Critical Race Theory is the opposite of The Golden Rule

Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:07 am to
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/7/21 at 9:07 am to
CRT should have just stayed a theory. The problem is, as you stated, there is no practical application for it.

CRT advocates believe it is necessary, useful, and powerful in the fight against systemic racism. The purpose, they say, is to name racism and address systemic racial inequities by highlighting ongoing systemic racism.

The MAJOR flaw is anyone with a brain can make up a theoretical reason for racism to have played a part in anything action taken. Even when racism truly didn't exist.

Someone here posted an article by James Lindsay about the problem with applying CRT. Here is the article... For Racial Healing, Reject CRT by James Lindsay

As you can read, the shop keeper is labeled "racist" by applying CRT regardless of the real factors that led to her decision. Lose/Lose situation.

CRT is an absolute joke when it moves beyond the abstract.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34365 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 10:16 am to
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Only useful idiots follow CRT. Many are on this board.


One is now the President of LSU.

This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 10:19 am
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18187 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:08 am to
There is no systemic racism, except for things like affirmative action and the "socially disdvantaged" farmers language in the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021. White people haven't become more racist despite the narrative being pushed. The only thing that has happened is that people of color have been socially conditioned to become hypersensitive to everything in order to make everything an issue about race.

Real racism is overt. Finding fault by taking words out of context or finding fault in actual equality and freedom is not racism. That's called "division." The later is overt racism, which has been introduced by leftists and pushed by the media, schools, and government. We can't stand for it.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:14 am to
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The Golden Rule teaches to treat others the way that you want to be treated. When society was teaching this method of coming together, we were. Enter in the "race card" where racism became instead of an overt offense, it became a word out of context or an emotion that is objectively implied. Critical race theory teaches that you can have micro-racism. Where every small thing from inanimate objects to fairness and equality and call is discrimination. In other words, instead of teaching people to be nice, CRT teaches to find offense and division. It's quite literally a division tactic and will NEVER bring any racial conciliation forward. We need to get back to The Golden Rule method of bringing everyone together in kindness. Anyone that pushes critical race theory is a racist bigot that wants to spread division and hatred.


Lot of words to karate chop a strawman. Your presumption that everyone just inherently knows what Critical Race Theory is, as you offer no definition or explanation, undermines the strength of your argument. It implies a deceptive intent as otherwise you would present the information and the audience could properly evaluate your assertion.

A thing that is important to you, may not be important to everyone. So err on the side of more information.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18187 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:15 am to
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Well, he posted an opinion, not a fact, but I'll let that point go.


I gave an argument backed up with evidence. This is no opinion. It is fact. You are a close-minded bigot if you stand for CRT. Nothing good will come of it. Most of us want to come together and live happily with our families and desire that from people around the world regardless of differences. Your support of CRT only focuses on differences, makes the color of one's skin a feature on which to be prejudged.

Early, I hate to break it to you man, but you are a small-minded bigot. I mean, what is a more stupid thing to judge someone on than the color of their skin?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:15 am to
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Your presumption that everyone just inherently knows what Critical Race Theory is


I mean you can google it pretty easily.

It's not like CRT followers hide what they're doing.

Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
18187 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:24 am to
Hey, if you want to burn down your entire house because of squeaky floor boards, that's your right. Just leave my house out of it. I would prefer to fix the squeaky floor boards instead of making a much more disastrous problem.
Posted by blackinthesaddle
Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
1732 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:41 am to
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Common themes that are characteristic of work in critical race theory, as documented by such scholars as Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic, include:
Critique of liberalism: CRT scholars question foundational liberal concepts such as Enlightenment rationality, legal equality, and Constitutional neutrality, and challenge the incrementalist, step-by-step approach of traditional civil-rights discourse;[12] they favor a race-conscious approach to social transformation, rejecting liberal embrace of affirmative action, color blindness, role modeling, or the merit principle; and an approach that relies more on political organizing, in contrast to liberalism's reliance on rights-based remedies.[28]
Storytelling, counter-storytelling, and "naming one's own reality": The use of narrative (storytelling) to illuminate and explore experiences of racial oppression...
Intersectional theory: The examination of race, sex, class, national origin, and sexual orientation, and how their combination (i.e., their intersections) plays out in various settings, e.g., how the needs of a Latina female are different from those of a black male and whose needs are the ones promoted.[32]
Standpoint epistemology: The view that a member of a minority has an authority and ability to speak about racism that members of other racial groups do not have, and that this can expose the racial neutrality of law as false.[1]
Essentialism vs. anti-essentialism: Delgado and Stefancic write, "Scholars who write about these issues are concerned with the appropriate unit for analysis: Is the black community one, or many, communities? Do middle- and working-class African-Americans have different interests and needs? Do all oppressed peoples have something in common?" This is a look at the ways that oppressed groups may share in their oppression but also have different needs and values that need to be looked at differently. It is a question of how groups can be essentialized or are unable to be essentialized.[33]
Structural determinism: Exploration of how "the structure of legal thought or culture influences its content," whereby a particular mode of thought or widely shared practice determines significant social outcomes, usually occurring without conscious knowledge. As such, theorists posit that our system cannot redress certain kinds of wrongs.[34]
Empathetic fallacy: Believing that one can change a narrative by offering an alternative narrative in hopes that the listener's empathy will quickly and reliably take over. Empathy is not enough to change racism as most people are not exposed to many people different from themselves and people mostly seek out information about their own culture and group.[35]
Non-white cultural nationalism/separatism: The exploration of more radical views that argue for separation and reparations as a form of foreign aid (including black nationalism).[29]
White privilege[edit]
White privilege is the notion of myriad social advantages, benefits, and courtesies that come with being a member of the dominant race (i.e. white people). For example, a clerk not following a person around in a store, or people not crossing the street at night to avoid a person, are viewed as white privilege.[36]
Cheryl I. Harris and Gloria Ladson-Billings describe a notion of whiteness as property, whereby whiteness is the ultimate property that whites alone can possess; valuable just like property. In this sense, from the CRT perspective, the white skin that some Americans possess is akin to owning a piece of property, in that it grants privileges to the owner that a renter (in this case, a person of color) would not be afforded.[37] The property functions of whiteness—i.e., rights to disposition; rights to use and enjoyment, reputation, and status property; and the absolute right to property—make the American dream more likely and attainable for whites.
Internalization[edit]
Karen Pyke documents the theoretical element of internalized racism or internalized racial oppression, whereby victims of racism begin to believe in the ideology that they are inferior to whites and white culture, who are superior. The internalizing of racism is not due to any weakness, ignorance, inferiority, psychological defect, gullibility, or other shortcomings of the oppressed. Instead, it is how authority and power in all aspects of society contribute to feelings of inequality.[38]
Institutional racism[edit]
Camara Phyllis Jones defines institutionalized racism as the structures, policies, practices, and norms resulting in differential access to the goods, services, and opportunities of society by race. Institutionalized racism is normative, sometimes legalized and often manifests as inherited disadvantage. It is structural, having been absorbed into our institutions of custom, practice, and law, so there need not be an identifiable offender. Indeed, institutionalized racism is often evident as inaction in the face of need, manifesting itself both in material conditions and in access to power. With regard to the former, examples include differential access to quality education, sound housing, gainful employment, appropriate medical facilities, and a clean environment.[39]
Influence of critical legal studies[edit]
As a movement that draws heavily from critical theory, critical race theory shares many intellectual commitments with critical theory, critical legal studies, feminist jurisprudence, and postcolonial theory. However, some authors like Tommy J. Curry have pointed out that the epistemic convergences with such approaches are emphasized due to the idealist turn in critical race theory. The latter, as Curry explains, is interested in discourse (i.e., how we speak about race) and the theories of white Continental philosophers, over and against the structural and institutional accounts of white supremacy which were at the heart of the realist analysis of racism introduced in Derrick Bell's early works,[40][page needed] and articulated through such Black thinkers as W. E. B. Du Bois, Paul Robeson, and Judge Robert L. Carter.[41][page needed]
Critical race theory draws on the priorities and perspectives of both critical legal studies and conventional civil rights scholarship, while also sharply contesting both of these fields. CRT's theoretical elements are provided by a variety of sources. Angela P. Harris describes CRT as sharing "a commitment to a vision of liberation from racism through right reason" with the civil rights tradition.[42] It deconstructs some premises and arguments of legal theory and simultaneously holds that legally-constructed rights are incredibly important.[43][page needed] As described by Derrick Bell, critical race theory in Harris' view is committed to "radical critique of the law (which is normatively deconstructionist) and...radical emancipation by the law (which is normatively reconstructionist)."[44]


I agree with you on the subject mostly. However, if you ever hope to gain traction with your argument, you may wish to revise your approach. Rants are easily dismissed, but providing information and then your opinion, will help to bolster your position.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261640 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:44 am to
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Your presumption that everyone just inherently knows what Critical Race Theory is,


Its a myth, a fairy tale that changes constantly.

It isn't real. It's a made up myth to explain social pathology because the scientific explanation is unacceptable to them.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16635 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 11:53 am to
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So err on the side of more information.


Or you could simply not be lazy and look up what you are ignorant upon yourself. Big ask for you, I know, but at least try.
Posted by Norbert
Member since Oct 2018
3189 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:17 pm to
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But rather than abandon their political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories.


I seem to remember someone else who did this. I believe he was Austrian-born and sported a Charlie Chaplin mustache...
This post was edited on 5/7/21 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Nawlens Gator
louisiana
Member since Sep 2005
5838 posts
Posted on 5/7/21 at 12:28 pm to


CRT is nothing more than a scam.

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