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re: Cost of Living & Salary Requirements

Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16113 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:11 pm to
You must live in Fort Bend County. Your realtor never told you that your taxes could be cut in half by moving a mile east into a different MUD.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2685 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:15 pm to
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$127.27 Cell Phone


How many cell phones do you have?
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:16 pm to
I *think* it might cap out at some age, but even if so it would cap out at what was the highest point, so those on fixed incomes do indeed have a problem.

I would probably sell (even if it were the family home), pay off all debt, bank the rest, and rent outside of town.

Looks like around three million is currently the new million if you want to retire without anxiety and shortfall.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Married
$3,600 Mortgage
$80 Electric
$40 Water/Sewer
$342 Food Cost
$60 Internet
$120 Cell Phone
$456 Health Insurance
$0 Car Note
$156 Car Insurance
$50 Fuel
$9 Random Streaming

Total
$4,904 /Month
$58,848/Year


+ us both maxxing out our 401K contributions.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24426 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:33 pm to
Probably really need to be at least 70k once you factor in taxes
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:44 pm to
Kudos for maxing your retirement plan. It brings your taxes down and builds your future, and let's face it, no one is looking out for any of us but ourselves.

Everyone should pay themselves first and say screw the IRS, though Caesar must of course always get his in the end grrrr

That is a really high mortgage though, it made me wonder if there's a second note involved.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 6:46 pm
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:47 pm to
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That is a really high mortgage though, it made me wonder if there's a second note involved.


Nope, a 10 year pay off plan
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3140 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:04 pm to
Cool, congrats! Well done, and you defeated the amortization curve!!
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 7:08 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70713 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:22 pm to
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If you think a person's only choices are a +$200k house or a shithole then you're completely out of touch with reality.




quote:

here are your choices for an up to 100k house. youre arse is living in a trailer.


My statement is simply that there are homes available for under $200k that aren't shitholes in a lot of places.

I bought a 1400 sq ft, 2 bed and 3 bath for about $135k in 2020 that was about 2 years old.

Value now is roughly $180k.

I live about 20 min outside of a city of 160k in a town of about 2k with all the necessities so not exactly the boondocks.



Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70713 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:24 pm to
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When is the last time you looked for a house anywhere that wasn't an extremely rural area?


A home on my street is currently listed at $190k.


Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2874 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:34 pm to
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$525 Car Note


Pulling this as a blatant example, but I make far more than $50k a year and don’t have a car note this high. This is right here is a spending problem rather than a COL problem. I’d also put a $1400 mortgage on a $50k salary in that category as well. My current mortgage is $1500. Based on your numbers, it looks like America has a spending problem rather than a COL problem.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53534 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:41 pm to
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Based on your numbers, it looks like America has a spending problem rather than a COL problem

But OP wants to live in Dallas or Nashville on 45k man.

I agree with the premise that required expenses are very high now but I also think people want to live in trendy areas and above their means.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:44 pm
Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2874 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:48 pm to
Yeah, there’s no doubt COL has gone up and some of the numbers in there are representative of that, but this was a poor example imo.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78349 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:51 pm to
Real estate and trendy cities are cyclical.

Look at Manhattan rents at the end of 2020 and beginning of 2021. It was actually a lot more affordable than it is now. And that’s not even 3 years ago.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53534 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:55 pm to
I agree but if you are a fairly low earner by 2023 standards (maybe average or slightly below) you might have to come to the realization that you don't make enough money to live in a big city.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70713 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:58 pm to
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Pulling this as a blatant example, but I make far more than $50k a year and don’t have a car note this high. This is right here is a spending problem rather than a COL problem. I’d also put a $1400 mortgage on a $50k salary in that category as well. My current mortgage is $1500. Based on your numbers, it looks like America has a spending problem rather than a COL problem.






Nail on the head.

tOT are applying their lifestyles to someone who makes $50k a year and saying people can't make it.

People who make $50k aren't living like tOT, if they're doing it responsibly.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:01 pm
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41908 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:11 pm to
I’d Kill for a $1400/ month mortgage. shite I was paying $1250/month rent when single back in ‘08
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 9:12 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70713 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

I’d Kill for a $1400/ month mortgage. shite I was paying $1250/month rent when single back in ‘08


My mortgage is like $652 including insurance and taxes


Posted by Porpus
Covington, LA
Member since Aug 2022
2718 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:28 pm to
A $1,400 mortgage with current interest rates is a $220,000 house in a low-tax area, *if* you put 20 percent down and can get a top-tier rate. I'm including tax and insurance since, you know, that's how a mortgage works.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70713 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

A $1,400 mortgage with current interest rates is a $220,000 house in a low-tax area, *if* you put 20 percent down and can get a top-tier rate. I'm including tax and insurance since, you know, that's how a mortgage works.


No doubt.

Definitely not a great time to be buying right now.
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