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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:34 pm to
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:34 pm to
I don’t disagree covid is different than swine flu. It clearly is

The “good thing” about swine flu was it latched onto the young and healthy, who could for the most part fight it off without needing hospitals

This is hitting the old and unhealthy, causing mass hospitalization.
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 7:35 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21547 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 7:34 pm to
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Bill is either a clown that doesn't understand statistics or he is purposely misleading his followers by using a total near the upper bound of estimated global deaths.

See how this works,

In the coming weeks confirmed COVID19 deaths will surpass the estimated 200,000 global H1N1 deaths in 2009.


The estimated range of global H1N1 deaths is 152,000 - 575,000.
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 8:35 pm to
Some people just want to get their name in the headlines.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13674 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:43 pm to
How can we be balls on with C19 and be +/- 300% with H1N1?
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11941 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 10:52 pm to
The Austrian Ski Resort that messed up Europe LINK including how some of the sophisticated (hah!) warning systems ignored the problem.

March was when the disease went home, all over Europe.
Posted by wope
Member since Aug 2011
5684 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:07 pm to
decided to make a separate post
This post was edited on 4/2/20 at 11:12 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21547 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:10 pm to
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How can we be balls on with C19 and be +/- 300% with H1N1?


Ultimately, in a year or two, when this is over, official estimates of deaths from COVID19 will probably have a pretty large spread.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:25 pm to
Yeah, there were just over 600,000 laboratory-positive cases of H1N1 and just over 8,000 laboratory-positive deaths.

By those measures, COVID-19 is already more infectious and more deadly ... and it's just getting started.

Anything based on estimates is just stupid. There's no good way to estimate worldwide cases of COVID-19, as the number of true cases is obviously some significant multiple of the current test results, because there are so many people with mild symptoms and also so many with symptoms who are not getting tested. Eventually, good estimates will get made from serological tests.
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 4/2/20 at 11:43 pm to
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Ultimately, in a year or two, when this is over, official estimates of deaths from COVID19 will probably have a pretty large spread.


Largely because of China. It could've killed 200k there and we'd never know.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 12:04 am to
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Bill is either a clown that doesn't understand statistics or he is purposely misleading his followers by using a total near the upper bound of estimated global deaths.

Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84435 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:00 am to
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@HandtevyMD: In January I got very sick (flu like illness but much worse), no sleep for 2 days and almost checked myself into the ED. Had no idea what it was. Today I checked my #COVID19 Antibody status......IgG+ Only (sign of past infection). Mixed emotions. Will retest tomorrow.


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Posted by tigercraig
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
3824 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 1:10 am to
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:09 am to
Love hearing all the experts changing their tunes on masks... now preaching ‘something is better than nothing” when at first they were completely in the “masks don’t work camp”

Yeah yeah, may have been said to prevent runs, so med staff could have them, but now they are the boy who cried wolf.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:17 am to
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Love hearing all the experts changing their tunes on masks... now preaching ‘something is better than nothing” when at first they were completely in the “masks don’t work camp”

Yeah yeah, may have been said to prevent runs, so med staff could have them, but now they are the boy who cried wolf.


Yes. They lied. From the get-go.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:20 am to
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Yes. They lied. From the get-go.


CDC and Fed Gov really screwed up at the beginning...

I called it in another thread, masks will become a fashion statement here like they are in Asia. Maybe not in summer, but come winter for flu season and when this will raise its head again.
Posted by MadDogs
Member since Jul 2018
454 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:22 am to
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Love hearing all the experts changing their tunes on masks... now preaching ‘something is better than nothing” when at first they were completely in the “masks don’t work camp”

Most people with any common sense knew that was BS. It does really make it difficult to trust anything the CDC has to say when they can't even tell the truth about something so obvious.

Same thing with all of these government official being willing to release any of the models behind their numbers. Ohio State University said they will be releasing a paper next
week describing their model which is the main source of data that the governor has been using.

This statement from the researcher seems a little disingenuous.
quote:

“It should not be viewed as withholding information,” Oglesbee said. “It’s really respecting the fact that if you release it prematurely, it could lead to responses that are actually detrimental.


So you are withholding information because you think the public is too dumb to handle it. While this is probably true but don't pretend it's something else.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11594 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:42 am to
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So you are withholding information because you think the public is too dumb to handle it.


It definitely is. Georgia puts in a stay at home order Wednesday and grocery stores are out of everything the next day thanks to people in Walmart who allow their toddlers to lick the shopping cart they have all their stuff in (no joke, this happened in front of a buddy of mine yesterday).
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 6:43 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 6:47 am to
That sucks in a way. We have too many trashy thieves that are easily caught because we can see their face on camera. If it becomes normal to wear a mask these thieves will have a big advantage.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:03 am to
Fauci just said the recommendation is to now wear masks....

frick these pricks


Now he’s stammering around the on the Hydroxochlorine, speaking out of both sides of his mouth and when challenged that Spanish doctors are prescribing it 75% of the time, he said “well that’s good”
This post was edited on 4/3/20 at 7:08 am
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11821 posts
Posted on 4/3/20 at 7:11 am to
All brains. No backbone. He cannot make a decision on all this.
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