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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:07 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:07 am to
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I posted a study some pages back that shows the amount of virus in someone’s throat is actually highest when they are asymptomatic in the first 5 days.


Higher virus in the throat of an asymptomatic person doesn't mean higher virus in the air vs a coughing person with the virus.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68511 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:08 am to
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Have there been any COVID-19 cases in BR?


For the 80000th time, there’s little to no testing in Baton Rouge. There’s almost certainly people infected.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
31030 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:09 am to
Yep, stupid number facts.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
24250 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:12 am to
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We should have stopped bringing people to facilities for MD appts that could have been done by phone.

Just reading through the thread from last night and saw this. I got an email from my GP yesterday that said they will be going to "telemedicine" soon and you will basically talk to a doctor or NP over the phone for any appointments. If you have CV symptoms you are to call them and they will check your symptoms against a list and advise you to come for testing or to stay at home and self quarantine.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
20361 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:12 am to
Why would this be considered a bat/monkey/bullshite virus when China accused the US Army of bringing it to Wuhan. Or is that their cover from it “escaping” containment? Hmmmm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:13 am to
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Higher virus in the throat of an asymptomatic person doesn't mean higher virus in the air vs a coughing person with the virus.


I agree. I’m just saying you don’t have to cough to spread the virus, or at least I haven’t seen evidence of that.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:13 am to
I mean, I am making logical inferences here. Logical inferences are based on the information at hand. It is true that we still lack hardcore evidence about how much infection occurs because of coughing vs someone touching their eye and then touching another person. We lack evidence on transmission just from breathing near someone. So, I could be wrong.

But we all have to make risk assessments based on what we do know. And we do know that the WHO did not encounter a single case of child-to-adult transmission in their study of over 40,000 cases in China. And I think that this is a very significant piece of information in making those risk assessments.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 9:18 am
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:15 am to
Can you link the data?
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:15 am to
quote:

For the 80000th time, there’s little to no testing in Baton Rouge. There’s almost certainly people infected


Sorry to have offended you with my question and being unable to keep up with what's all posted
Posted by JonTigerFan11
Member since May 2016
892 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:17 am to
I know this has already been posted, but what are the statistics they are using to determine the overall population that will contract this? I was just looking at the amount of people that have tested positive in Italy for the disease, and it’s currently .02% of their total population. I understand lots of people are tested plus there are those that never will be yada yada. But still, going from .02 in Italy to people claiming 70% of the US will be infected is hard to swallow.
This post was edited on 3/14/20 at 10:30 am
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6793 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:20 am to
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Why would this be considered a bat/monkey/bullshite virus when China accused the US Army of bringing it to Wuhan
If this virus is a bioweapon it's a really shitty one.

Way too many people that are asymptomatic or have common cold symptoms for this to be a bioweapon.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:22 am to
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The Joint Mission learned that infected children have largely been identified through contact tracing in households of adults. Of note, people interviewed by the Joint Mission Team could not recall episodes in which transmission occurred from a child to an adult.


LINK

This really isn't data, because the WHO team didn't go into the study trying to figure out if child-to-adult transmission was happening. That wasn't their primary focus.

I readily concede that it most certainly does not prove my belief that kids are not major vectors of COVID-19. It's just one piece of evidence.

But in situations where proof is lacking and we have to make risk assessments based on the evidence that we do have, I think it's significant.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:26 am to
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But in situations where proof is lacking and we have to make risk assessments based on the evidence that we do have, I think it's significant.



So, if I had a kid in daycare, and the daycare seemed to be taking appropriate sanitary and cleaning measures, I'd leave the kid in the daycare.

That's what this post was about.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3250 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:27 am to
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:30 am to
So this is what that report says...

quote:

From available data, and in the absence of results from serologic studies, it is not possible to determine the extent of infection among children, what role children play in transmission, whether children are less susceptible or if they present differently clinically (i.e. generally milder presentations). The Joint Mission learned that infected children have largely been identified through contact tracing in households of adults. Of note, people interviewed by the Joint Mission Team could not recall episodes in which transmission occurred from a child to an adult.


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:36 am to
51 presumptive positive cases in Louisiana.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20974 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:36 am to
Right. There could have been lots of child-to-adult transmission that they missed, because they weren't specifically looking for it.

That's entirely possible. It just doesn't seem likely to me.
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
9040 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:40 am to
We’re only a day or two away from seeing some three digit jumps
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
50806 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:45 am to
Yep, the next week I believe is when the nation will see huge jumps.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 3/14/20 at 9:46 am to
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We’re only a day or two away from seeing some three digit jumps


It’s bound to happen, but should soon level off and decrease with the measures put into place and it being at the front of everyone’s mind.
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