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Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:17 pm to GEAUXmedic
Not a chance in hell that would happen.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:18 pm to GEAUXmedic
What do NYC’s numbers look like?
I guess at this point frick it. If we’re gonna cancel every thing anyway might as well go full quarantine and fully snuff this thing out
I guess at this point frick it. If we’re gonna cancel every thing anyway might as well go full quarantine and fully snuff this thing out
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:18 pm to tigerfan88
I can't confirm that screenshot being real so I deleted it.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:19 pm to upgrayedd
quote:
Ok, so what should he have done?
Once we saw how bad it was getting in China we should have immediately ramped up test production to prepare for it coming here as it was only a matter of time. He then should have had anyone coming in from any country that had it tested the moment they set foot on US soil. He should have not blown it off day after day like it wasn't worth worrying about. He should have never falsely claimed the spread was going down. He should have never gone into a televised meeting so woefully unprepared that he actually asked the doctors if we could just use a really good flu vaccine to stop it. Things like that.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The biggest factor for snowballing was Gobert & Mitchell testing positive and the NBA season being cancelled on live tv. That started the closures rolling.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:20 pm to Dr RC
Getting tests ready starting in January and testing/monitoring/quarantining everyone who came back from a danger zone.
That simple. We would be in 100x better position
That simple. We would be in 100x better position
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:23 pm to tigerfan88
Maybe using the WHO tests until we developed and tested our own would have been helpful. Being so far behind with testing is just unacceptable. But I put that blame on CDC. I did cringe when Trump when on tv saying it was all under control.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:23 pm to Dr RC
quote:However, anytime someone disagrees with the cancelations they are met with the following :
It's not just about deaths
“I guess you don’t care if your grandparents get corona”
“You don’t care about people dying”
Etc etc
I have point blank been told that by multiple posters
If you want to argue medical necessities, fine. But that is absolutely not the main refute here nor the public
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:27 pm to tigerfan88
quote:
testing/monitoring/quarantining everyone who came back from a danger zone.
Can you imagine if Trump had suggested from the jump that we quarantine people traveling from other countries? The news headlines would have been something to read. I mean, you have Democrats actively trying to lift the EU travel ban he just put in place.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:28 pm to SaintsandTigers
Many more people will die if the healthcare system is overrun.
That's what is happening in Italy. It hit them so hard and fast they were overwhelmed.
South Korea is in a better position b/c they started testing the frick out of everyone almost immediately so they were able to isolation the infected and slow the spread.
So yes, it's not just about the amount of deaths this can cause but the fact that many of the deaths could perhaps have been stopped if we had just taken some simple preventative steps.
That's what is happening in Italy. It hit them so hard and fast they were overwhelmed.
South Korea is in a better position b/c they started testing the frick out of everyone almost immediately so they were able to isolation the infected and slow the spread.
So yes, it's not just about the amount of deaths this can cause but the fact that many of the deaths could perhaps have been stopped if we had just taken some simple preventative steps.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:29 pm to SaintsandTigers
Go argue in another thread so we can just get back to updates and links etc. That's all this thread was before you guys showed up.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:30 pm to SaintsandTigers
It’s not just about corona deaths is probably the better way to say it.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:30 pm to UpToPar
quote:
Can you imagine if Trump had suggested from the jump that we quarantine people traveling from other countries? The news headlines would have been something to read.
All he really would have had to do to nip the majority of the negative headlines in the bud would have been to point to China straight up bulldozing all roads to Wuhan, welding people into homes, arresting anyone who tried to leave, and spraying down their streets with bleach to stop the spread. Then once it slammed the frick out of Italy he'd have locked up his reelection overnight.
This post was edited on 3/12/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:32 pm to SaintsandTigers
quote:
I have point blank been told that by multiple posters
Quit using their poorly constructed arguments in your poorly constructed counter-arguments
Better yet, quit arguing in this thread. Updates, links, information, quality discussion! That’s why we are here.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:33 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Pure speculation based on educated guessing, which is the best we can do now - Asymptomatic, I would probably peg the general population at 30-40%, then probably peg sub-clinical at 30-35%. We will likely never know exactly though.
I think what we can say confidently is that the asymptomatic rate is not 70, 80, or 90%
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:33 pm to Dr RC
He didn't care about negative headlines with the middle eastern travel ban. The optics were that he downplayed it and didn't get in front.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:33 pm to Dr RC
quote:
All he really would have had to do to nip the majority of the negative headlines in the bud would have been to point to China straight up bulldozing all roads to Wuhan, welding people into homes, arresting anyone who tried to leave, and spraying down their streets with bleach to stop the spread.
Right, because we want our government to strive to be more like China. Come on man, I'm not saying he shouldn't have taken additional steps to get ahead of this, but anything he did was going to be heavily criticized by the media.
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:35 pm to LSUGrrrl
Heard less new cases today than previous 2. How does this go along with "sweeping through the US like wildfire?" Been seeing people constantly saying new cases will double daily 
Posted on 3/12/20 at 4:36 pm to Dr RC
Hindsight is 20/20
Also, considering the incubation period, by the time the virus was already spreading in Italy but before it started being noticed, many Italians would have flown to America for work, family, tourism etc.
Looking at a viral outbreak is like looking at a star. You are looking back in time
Also, considering the incubation period, by the time the virus was already spreading in Italy but before it started being noticed, many Italians would have flown to America for work, family, tourism etc.
Looking at a viral outbreak is like looking at a star. You are looking back in time
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