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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:40 pm to Malik Agar
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:40 pm to Malik Agar
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A study awaiting peer review from scientists at Princeton University, the University of California-Los Angeles and the National Institutes of Health (NIH) posted online Wednesday indicated that the COVID-19 virus could remain viable in the air "up to 3 hours post aerosolization," while remaining alive on plastic and other surfaces for up to three days.
We are seeing an unprecedented flood of research and publications focused on COVID19. Even the best research groups can make mistakes and we have seen a number of high profile papers withdrawn from prepublication. However, n the surface, this seems like an interesting paper:
quote:
33 HCoV-19 (SARS-2) has caused >88,000 reported illnesses with a current case-fatality ratio of ~2%. Here,
34 we investigate the stability of viable HCoV-19 on surfaces and in aerosols in comparison with SARS35 CoV-1. Overall, stability is very similar between HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1. We found that viable virus
36 could be detected in aerosols up to 3 hours post aerosolization, up to 4 hours on copper, up to 24 hours on
37 cardboard and up to 2-3 days on plastic and stainless steel. HCoV-19 and SARS-CoV-1 exhibited similar
38 half-lives in aerosols, with median estimates around 2.7 hours. Both viruses show relatively long viability
39 on stainless steel and polypropylene compared to copper or cardboard: the median half-life estimate for
40 HCoV-19 is around 13 hours on steel and around 16 hours on polypropylene. Our results indicate that
41 aerosol and fomite transmission of HCoV-19 is plausible, as the virus can remain viable in aerosols for
42 multiple hours and on surfaces up to days.
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Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:40 pm to tiger91
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So do we now have enough tests to test a basketball team or two
No shite but the blood work the CDC took on my family fricking January 30 hasnt come back yet. The one they stuck my 4 month old twice while not finding a vein.
Good times
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:40 pm to Lsupimp
Try to get tested.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:43 pm to CivilTiger83
quote:Do you know the current rate of the flu for that age range?
If the flu had a 5-10% mortality rate for people over 70 with no vaccine, we would be freaking out over that too.
In other news, this virus hasn’t killed anyone under 10. I guess you think it would be better if the rate was evenly spread across all demographics.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:45 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:43 pm to tigerskin
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Try to get tested.
Call wherever you go before you go in!
They will thank you and you will save a lot of headaches.
This post was edited on 3/11/20 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:44 pm to tigerskin
If they can test two basketball teams the can test pimp.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:45 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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This is exactly why Taleb is saying. You have to stop every novel virus early, you can’t wait to see it’s true potential otherwise it’s too late. I’m not saying I completely agree but he has a point.
It’s why very early in this thread a lot of us were saying to ban all travel, and ridiculed. Because the economic impacts of stopping travel are way less than the impacts of an out of control virus for many months.
Y'all would have banned international travel for AIDS, SARS, MERS, Ebola, Swine Flu, Zika, etc. If you can't understand why that's impractical, I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:45 pm to ell_13
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ell_13
You haven’t realized yet that there isn’t anything you can tell someone about the flu that is going to change their mind about this?
It is what it is
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:47 pm to Malik Agar
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It's not just that. I'm not an expert in infectious diseases, but this makes it seem like if you walk through an area where someone sneezed coughed or sneezed, you can get it. Someone that knows more make sure I'm saying this correctly, please.
It's the same thing being said by the infections disease expert that went on Rogan's podcast. A German study said it could be spread via inhalation.
That's why when all the naysayers on here say "Just wash your hands" - that helps, but that doesn't block aerosol exposure. Shutting down group gatherings is critical to limit that mode of infection.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:48 pm to WaWaWeeWa
This thread has convinced me that both me and my son have the virus.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:48 pm to ell_13
I just read 2 in a study by the Germans on Fox News
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:49 pm to CivilTiger83
Jerking off seems to help. I have not caught it and I pump out at least one ‘gasm daily.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:49 pm to rds dc
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However, n the surface, this seems like an interesting paper
Read the paper. Basically states COVID19 is as viable in the air as SARS is/was. Helps rule out the hypothesis that COVID19 spread is so much higher than SARS because of transmission methods.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:49 pm to frankthetank
Just checking in on the thread again. Are we dead yet?
Bought my impregnable corono-suit. Just $1600.
Bought my impregnable corono-suit. Just $1600.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 pm to slackster
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Y'all would have banned international travel for AIDS, SARS, MERS, Ebola, Swine Flu, Zika, etc. If you can't understand why that's impractical, I don't know what to tell you.
Im just saying that’s Taleb’s point.
You can’t understand what he’s saying because you have a more narrow view than him.
He is thinking of risk on a species level time frame. A slight economic downturn on those scales isn’t as significant as a potential deadly novel virus that in the future could be way worse than this one even if very unlikely (Think respiratory spread of Ebola)
It’s just two different perspectives I guess. I’m not saying you are wrong.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 pm to ell_13
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:50 pm to ell_13
Which day you think you are on?
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:51 pm to Old Sarge
The numbers posted by rds suggest growth rate doubles every 5-6 days on average. It is possible you could have a day that doubles in two days early on when cases are so low already. Or maybe when you gut a large cluster of positive results in a day.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:52 pm to CivilTiger83
I’m very curious as to why travel from Europe is shut down as of midnight on Friday. Why not immediately? That basically gives all those folks currently in Europe time to come back to the U.S. with Covid-19. Seems illogical to me. Plus, what time are they using? Eastern time? Central time? Time in France? Will those travelers be able to outsmart the ban and get to the UK and then fly home from there?
I am ignorant as to general travel regulations and would appreciate any information on this imminent travel ban.
I am ignorant as to general travel regulations and would appreciate any information on this imminent travel ban.
Posted on 3/11/20 at 10:53 pm to CivilTiger83
Why dont we just cancel old people for a month since they're the only people at any sort of risk instead of ruining shite for everyone?
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