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Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:48 am to Antonio Moss
You think that’s the same as cutting off travel to major countries and forcing whole families to self quarantine and cancelling major events and schools? 
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:48 am to tigerskin
And I have never called it the common cold.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:48 am to Antonio Moss
Ell has dug in so deep and spun around so many times, he doesn’t know where he is
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:49 am to ell_13
quote:
But it can be the case with any URV. That doesn’t make this thing special.
Ok
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:49 am to tigerskin
The question is rhetorical. You know what that is right?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:49 am to Antonio Moss
quote:Ours? Not at all.
You don't think nationwide vaccination is "aggressive"?
Less than 40% of adults get the flu shot.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:51 am to Scruffy
It’s like he completely ignored the word “THIS” in that sentence. Why aren’t we “THIS” aggressive for the flu? I never said we didn’t take any action at all.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:52 am to Scruffy
Sweden is apparently stopping testing for citizens and only will test health care workers. If your mildly sick they are telling people to stay home.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:52 am to TigerChief10
quote:Is yours so void that you have to keep returning to this thread?
Are yalls lives really so void of excitement you have to trick yourselves into getting worked up over this bullshite?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:53 am to ell_13
quote:I am sorry, but combing your avalanche of posts for reasonable, non trolling positions would take a while.
One of my first posts here said that I can understand the concern for more pressure on the system in terms of added patients. That potential exists with any novel virus.
This is not the end of times, this is not even going to be something that needs to be dealt with in the summer. I am hedging that by planning a NYC trip for us to see the city for my kids and grab a Yankees game.
But it is also needs to be dealt with to minimize suffering and loss of life unnecessarily. That is not wishcasting nor is is hoping for the worst..that is reality. Discussing it is only natural.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:53 am to Burhead
Wait. Isn’t that one of the places touted for its excellent single payer system???
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:54 am to Scruffy
It is going to be fun to revisit this thread at the end of June. I have no idea how this will play out. Will the US have 500k deaths, or will the figure be less than 500?
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:55 am to Harry Caray
im just seeing what we're freaking out about today. Are we keeping our kids from hopping on the school bus? Not stepping in our cars today? Trying to stay away from wasps or bees? All this shite is more likely to kill you than this virus yall are worked up over
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:56 am to TigerChief10
quote:
im just seeing what we're freaking out about today.
Yeah that’s why you’ve been saying the same thing on this thread for the last day or two
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:56 am to SloaneRanger
Yeah....we will start doing aggressive measures to limit this and the “this is nothing” folks will return and say “see it was nothing.”
I can already tell you that.
I can already tell you that.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 10:57 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:57 am to TigerChief10
You clearly have nothing valuable to add to this discussion and don't want to bother considering what anyone else has to add. Move along with your life if you feel so comfortable.
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:57 am to tigerfan88
quote:
Don’t know where that’s from but people on here have already debunked the narrative that the U.S is “behind” Italy. We actually had a confirmed case before they did.
"Debunked" is a strong word for anything that happens in this thread. The US had its first case of suspected community spread on Feb 26th, probably acquired a week or more earlier (obviously not actually the first community acquired case, but first confirmed by testing). The other 59 confirmed US cases on Feb 26th were people with travel history (mostly China and Diamond Princess) or known exposure to people with travel history. On Feb 26th, Italy had 470 confirmed cases, don't know how many were community acquired.
It's impossible to pin down exact start dates of community spread within any given country, but it seems to have started in Italy before the US, or for some unknown reason spread faster in Italy. Italy has also done a lot more testing than US according to numbers published so far, so that adds uncertainty to the data.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 11:27 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:58 am to TigerChief10
You still want that ICU bed when you get hit by that car?
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 10:59 am
Posted on 3/10/20 at 10:59 am to wdhalgren
I was just on a call with Florida Dept. of Health regarding residential retirement communities for senior citizens and the Coronavirus.
Here's a recap:
• Covid-19, new virus that appeared in early January, spread around the world. Attacks the lungs, difficult to breathe. Fever, cough, shortness of breath. Appears like pneumonia. No vaccine. No medications. Transmitted like the Flu (coughs, sneezes, etc. – particles go about 3 feet – linger in air for period of time / can stay on surface for a few hours). Stay away from people who are sick. Handwashing important. Clean surfaces. Slightly more infectious that Flu, considerably more serious that the Flu. Flu 0.1 % mortality rate, 2 to 4 % mortality rate, about 20 to 40 % higher than Flu.
• Elderly population particularly vulnerable between ages of 70 – 80 % - mortality rate of 8 %. Above 80 years old, about 14 % mortality rate.
• Still have Flu in community, 20 million people alone this. Can have Covid-19 and Flu at same time. Flu shot only protects against Flu, not against Covid-19.
• Plan to inform public against Covid-19 and protecting themselves against this.
• Plan to get individuals in community are isolated so they can not spread to other individuals. At present time, individuals with Covid-19, linked to international travel.
• How to protect?
o Restriction of visitors. Screening pool out there for visitors? Fever? Sick? Have you been on cruise in past 14 days? International travel in last 14 days? If yes, should not be visiting at all.
o Employees – if sick, they are not coming to work. Don’t have to take temperature, just make sure they are being monitored. No evidence of community spread in Florida. If we see lung disease and physicians can’t figure it out, this would be a situation where we would test for Covid-19.
• Dynamic situation, changes daily around the world.
• Agency of Healthcare Administration – working under direction of Surgeon General and Governor – efforts to support regulated facilities with advice that Surgeon General just articulated. Can’t emphasize enough to enforce screening of visitors, staff and vendors who may be coming into communities. Be comprehensive, if sick, cruise, international travel, etc. … not visiting … all reasons why they should not be allowed to visit.
• If you are bringing any outside group into community for programming and tours, we should consider restricting that. Trying to eliminate public exposure for our residents. Should really important part of our focus and consideration.
• Supplies are becoming limited. If you have special needs, notify country emergency operations coordinator for assistance.
• Commercial testing now available through 2 laboratory. Quest and LabCorp. Different hospital laboratories can actually order a test kit for this, assuming they have capabilities. What is a test? What is a kit? A kit refers to collection of agents that we use to test hundred of sample. One kit allows us to 1000 tests. At the present time, we do not have limitations nationally in terms of testing.
Here's a recap:
• Covid-19, new virus that appeared in early January, spread around the world. Attacks the lungs, difficult to breathe. Fever, cough, shortness of breath. Appears like pneumonia. No vaccine. No medications. Transmitted like the Flu (coughs, sneezes, etc. – particles go about 3 feet – linger in air for period of time / can stay on surface for a few hours). Stay away from people who are sick. Handwashing important. Clean surfaces. Slightly more infectious that Flu, considerably more serious that the Flu. Flu 0.1 % mortality rate, 2 to 4 % mortality rate, about 20 to 40 % higher than Flu.
• Elderly population particularly vulnerable between ages of 70 – 80 % - mortality rate of 8 %. Above 80 years old, about 14 % mortality rate.
• Still have Flu in community, 20 million people alone this. Can have Covid-19 and Flu at same time. Flu shot only protects against Flu, not against Covid-19.
• Plan to inform public against Covid-19 and protecting themselves against this.
• Plan to get individuals in community are isolated so they can not spread to other individuals. At present time, individuals with Covid-19, linked to international travel.
• How to protect?
o Restriction of visitors. Screening pool out there for visitors? Fever? Sick? Have you been on cruise in past 14 days? International travel in last 14 days? If yes, should not be visiting at all.
o Employees – if sick, they are not coming to work. Don’t have to take temperature, just make sure they are being monitored. No evidence of community spread in Florida. If we see lung disease and physicians can’t figure it out, this would be a situation where we would test for Covid-19.
• Dynamic situation, changes daily around the world.
• Agency of Healthcare Administration – working under direction of Surgeon General and Governor – efforts to support regulated facilities with advice that Surgeon General just articulated. Can’t emphasize enough to enforce screening of visitors, staff and vendors who may be coming into communities. Be comprehensive, if sick, cruise, international travel, etc. … not visiting … all reasons why they should not be allowed to visit.
• If you are bringing any outside group into community for programming and tours, we should consider restricting that. Trying to eliminate public exposure for our residents. Should really important part of our focus and consideration.
• Supplies are becoming limited. If you have special needs, notify country emergency operations coordinator for assistance.
• Commercial testing now available through 2 laboratory. Quest and LabCorp. Different hospital laboratories can actually order a test kit for this, assuming they have capabilities. What is a test? What is a kit? A kit refers to collection of agents that we use to test hundred of sample. One kit allows us to 1000 tests. At the present time, we do not have limitations nationally in terms of testing.
This post was edited on 3/10/20 at 11:01 am
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