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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:23 pm to
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what data


I've asked this question, multiples of times in this thread and get crickets. I've seen some github repositories with some data, but where are you all drawing data from? How are you cleaning it? I can't find shite in excel format.
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:24 pm to
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Can you ask her what data she has seen that would indicate such a low mortality rate. Serious question, I actually want to evaluate it.

Or is it just a hunch?


I wouldn’t call it a hunch, but I’m not sure it’s “a study” per se. somewhere in between those two

From her talking to me right now, it’s about the little info they have on cases/viral strain

I will not lie when I say I am borderline aspergers/STEM oriented only and I can’t really grasp the medical side of this. Yes, medicine is science, but not one I truly understand
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:25 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
Member since Oct 2011
26630 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:24 pm to
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children were as likely to be infected as adults


This contradicts what is being reported/assumed so far.
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
32304 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:25 pm to
Just curious is she ID in new Orleans? With LSU?
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:25 pm to
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Just curious is she ID in new Orleans? With LSU?
No, not in Louisiana anymore.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2493 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:31 pm to
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less virulent and less common
this is called generational attenuation.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:32 pm to
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I wouldn’t call it a hunch, but I’m not sure it’s “a study” per se. somewhere in between those two


So I am assuming she thinks we aren’t diagnosing all the cases? If so, how is she estimating how many we aren’t diagnosing?
Posted by transcend
Austin, TX
Member since Aug 2013
4166 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:33 pm to
Talking out her arse. No offense. No one knows atm.
Posted by Dominate308
South Florida
Member since Jan 2013
2895 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:38 pm to
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First case of corona has hit south Louisiana. Should break within the next 24 hours.

There have been cases in Louisiana for weeks. No one was testing so it never happened.
Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:38 pm to
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So I am assuming she thinks we aren’t diagnosing all the cases?
Absolutely
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If so, how is she estimating how many we aren’t diagnosing?
No

Not with me at least. Lol

Honestly our conversations aren’t too deep about this. But I was just surprised earlier you seemed to be more on the side of thinking this is “scary” considering your MD background

Pretty much every doctor she associates with(we had a party to celebrate Mardi Gras out here)made this sound like a ridiculous/sad thing the media/uninformed people were running with. They would never say this to patients, but they all but called this “nothing”

I apologize it appears I read your tone wrong earlier. I am not great at picking up tone
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:40 pm
Posted by hombreman9
USA
Member since Feb 2009
3782 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:45 pm to
I really think diamond princess is our best case study currently. Susceptible demographic. Highly controlled in terms of testing. Hombreman9 takes a stand here and calls the CFR 0.7%. For a CFR of 3.4% Iwould think that diamond princess would have to be a big outlier
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 9:51 pm
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26668 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:47 pm to
That’s what I’ve been told. Someone posted that Ochsner sent out an email debunking that though.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53474 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:57 pm to
Going to be called a fear mongerer, but I thought it interesting and worthy of posting just because of all of the flu comparisons. I’m assuming the numbers are accurate....some of the flus seem off by an order of magnitude.

And no, I’m not claiming these numbers are lead ins to a crisis. But it does seem worth while to make sure it’s clear what it is doing to the older generations. It’s just like the flu essentially for most, but not all.

This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 10:12 pm
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83736 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 9:58 pm to
Add Egypt to the list if you haven't already

All positive cases in Harris County so far have involved individuals that traveled together to Egypt and back.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:03 pm to
I mean that’s fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but some explanation would be helpful
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 10:04 pm
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21548 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:11 pm to
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Can you ask her what data she has seen that would indicate such a low mortality rate. Serious question, I actually want to evaluate it.

Or is it just a hunch?


One of the interesting things about this thread, in TDs history, is that there are no actual experts on SARS-CoV-2. For any thread posted on TDs there are usually a few actual experts that chime in, even if they are just trolling. There are some posters that are experts in fields related to this topic or that have work experience in the area or some kind of schooling but there is no one that can claim to be a SARS-CoV-2 expert. Any emerging infections disease experts? Maybe? Any coronavirus experts? There are only 4 endemic human coronaviruses and then SARS & MERS. So I can't imagine that is a super lucrative research arena? Bottom line, there is more that we don't know about SARS-CoV-2 than we do know. The data that we have is the data that we have and you can discount it or disregard it but it doesn't change the fact that there is still a lot we don't know about this virus.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:13 pm to
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Pretty much every doctor she associates with(we had a party to celebrate Mardi Gras out here)made this sound like a ridiculous/sad thing the media/uninformed people were running with.


Well two things. First, we have a lot more information than we did at Mardi Gras. Second, I’ve shared this same type of joking tone with others and I think it’s a combination of wanting to appear tough and also really wanting this to be nothing because it’s a scenario that would be a huge PITA.

I too have said “it’s nothing” in person more times than I can count

Posted by SaintsandTigers
Member since Feb 2020
461 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:14 pm to
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Well two things. First, we have a lot more information than we did at Mardi Gras. Second, I’ve shared this same type of joking tone with others and I think it’s a combination of wanting to appear tough and also really wanting this to be nothing because it’s a scenario that would be a huge PITA.

I too have said “it’s nothing” in person more times than I can count
I would think we are on the same page

I honestly misjudged your tone from earlier. I admitted such
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
21548 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:16 pm to
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This contradicts what is being reported/assumed so far.


It was just published to a preprint site and hasn't been peer reviewed. However, there has been no movement to discredit it, not that I have see at least. The paper put up yesterday (?) calming that there have already been significant mutations causing a more deadly strain has been thoroughly destroyed by the research community.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85117 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 10:17 pm to
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All positive cases in Harris County so far have involved individuals that traveled together to Egypt and back.


Any ages no the infected? I’d assume 50+ since it was a group that went together.

Also, why the F is a judge giving a briefing on the city and what people should expect?
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