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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:49 pm to
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Ok, if doctors are dying from it, I am starting to get freaked ou
If we didn’t have a flu vaccine that hospitals require, I bet we would hear of physicians dying from it from time to time. They may anyways, especially ones who are older. I just doubt it’s newsworthy since it’s a hazard of the job.
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I was under the impression this was just a respiratory illness that isn’t severe for most people
That could still be true.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20873 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:50 pm to
She was 62 years old. Unless you are over 60, grew up in a poverty stricken 3rd world country which caused you to have a poorly developed immune system, you’ll be fine.

Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5327 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Inoculation is an intentional act for a specific reason, what he described was contraction, not inoculation.


Well, that's not exactly what I learned in medical school, residency and 30 years of practice. And it's not what I tried to gently show you in the definition above from Merriam Webster. But, hey, define it however you like.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:53 pm
Posted by TomTheGhost
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:51 pm to
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Unless you are over 60, grew up in a poverty stricken 3rd world country which caused you to have a poorly developed immune system




We are the south
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:52 pm to
This was earlier in the day, most of the people that died were 50-70+ and had other health issues.

There was also a Chinese redditor who was saying that too many of the elderly he knew were refusing to even wear a mask because they thought it was fate or something if they got it.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:54 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196576 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:53 pm to
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This was earlier in the day, most of the people that died were 50-70+ and had other health issues.
RIP Peej
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:53 pm to
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Ok, if doctors are dying from it, I am starting to get freaked out

I was under the impression this was just a respiratory illness that isn’t severe for most people



SARS killed a guy from the WHO who was investigating an early case in Vietnam. Healthcare workers are often the most vulnerable, for obvious reasons.
Posted by PearlJam
NotBeardEaves
Member since Aug 2014
13908 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:56 pm to
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Well, that's not exactly what I learned in medical school, residency and 30 years of practice
You learned contracting a virus through the eyes is properly referred to as a point of inoculation? I don't believe you.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:58 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:56 pm to
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Ok, if doctors are dying from it, I am starting to get freaked out

I read that a doctor and several nurses (I believe it was 1 doctor and 13 nurses) were infected from a patient early in the outbreak. I think they just thought it was standard pneumonia instead of this virus.

This COULD be that doctor.

Just wanted to give some potential perspective on this case.

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I was under the impression this was just a respiratory illness that isn’t severe for most people


Many of the deaths seem to be older people who have other health issues (e.g. high blood pressure, chronic liver disease, etc.).

But I think 1 person who has died was a healthy 36 year old male. But then again, there are healthy people who are in good shape who get the flu and die every year.

At the numbers we know, it has a higher mortality rate than the regular influzena season, but a lower mortality rate than SARS and MERS.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:56 pm to
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This was earlier in the day, most of the people that died were 50-70+ and had other health issues.


I know at least one reported case was someone that was 35... but it’s possible there were other complications.

It’s effect on children would be the scary part. I will go when it is my time, but don’t touch my children.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20873 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:57 pm to
You haven’t seen anything until you travel to a remote part of China. I have travelled multiple times to the poorer villages in southwest China and it’s sad to see elderly people who grew up in real poverty.

I had a lady tell he about the time Mao came through during The Long March. She talked of starvation, eating rats and bugs, having almost no clothing, and all kinds of stuff. It was depressing to hear but awesome to hear a historical story such as that.

Now back to my thoughts. For the last few years the Chinese Government has been buying out all of these farms owned by those type people and shipping them to housing projects in big cities. Wonder why they been doing that.

Why Wuhan?

This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:57 pm to
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Isn’t that basically the scenario with Typhoid Mary who was forcibly quarantined twice?

I’m surprised I can’t find much except a book excerpt that raised on construction issues related to that.




Found some info on the CDC site. They can force you to be quarantined if you cross state borders or are entering the US from abroad.

State law determines how quarantines are handled intrastate.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16149 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:04 pm to
Pretty sure Chris Christie did this to a nurse during the Ebola scare. She was confined to her house.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3650 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:04 pm to
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If we didn’t have a flu vaccine that hospitals require, I bet we would hear of physicians dying from it from time to time.


The flu vaccine isn’t very effective. Some years less than 50%.

I’m sure it happens but it’s very rare for a practicing physician to die from the the flu. Vaccination is more to prevent physicians from spreading the virus to high risk pt that are much more likely to die from the flu.
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4353 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:05 pm to
All these idiots traveling back and forth from China can GTFO!!! frick China!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:06 pm to
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They can force you to be quarantined if you cross state borders or are entering the US from abroad.
But how can they “force” anyone without some form of Due Process if they refuse to comply?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
139098 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:10 pm to
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flu vaccine

causes cancer
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
2525 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:12 pm to
CBS report in the country that was interesting.

LINK

This article summarizes the latest medical info on the virus...
LINK

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Two papers published Friday in the journal the Lancet offer some of the first rigorous analyses of patients who contracted a novel coronavirus that has broken out in China and spread to other countries. Among their discoveries: The virus does not only affect people with other, underlying health conditions, and people who are not showing symptoms can still be carrying the virus.


That is bad news if you are contagious without showing symptoms.

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About a third of the 41 patients needed intensive care, and six of them died. Some of the patients with more serious illnesses suffered from a dangerous immune system overreaction called a cytokine storm, but the researchers said they still did not have a good understanding of how the virus affects the immune system.


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In a commentary piece also published Friday by the Lancet, Dr. David Heymann, an infectious disease epidemiologist at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, wrote that “the picture these two manuscripts paint is of a disease with a 3-6 day incubation period and insidious onset.”
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:13 pm to
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But how can they “force” anyone without some form of Due Process if they refuse to comply?


LINK
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46369 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:14 pm to
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I read that a doctor and several nurses (I believe it was 1 doctor and 13 nurses) were infected from a patient early in the outbreak. I think they just thought it was standard pneumonia instead of this virus.

They are also working insane hours and grabbing whatever they can eat in between patients. Not helpful for the immune system.
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