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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:41 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77273 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:41 am to
quote:

You can be prudent and not panic.
We aren’t being prudent though, not as a society.

Everyone is currently pushing the “panic button”.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53483 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:41 am to
At the end of the day that’s always been the issue, starting 150 pages ago: we don’t know what’s the total case count. How many stay home with the sniffles and aches.
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:41 am to
From BBC Breaking News Twitter

quote:

At least 210 coronavirus patients have died in Iran - far more than officially admitted - Iranian health sources tell BBC

Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11824 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:42 am to
quote:

How many stay home with the sniffles and aches.


I imagine NK will be the leader in this after the treatment the first case received.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
74236 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:42 am to
fricking Iran


Thank god we have a travel ban
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:44 am to
The CDC briefing is how the debate should have been handled the other night. Make them call in and open their mike when they're allowed to speak.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:45 am to
quote:

The reason we have such accurate numbers on the flu is because we test MILLIONS every year, resulting in an extremely high number of positive flu cases who don’t die, which results in the accurate and fairly low mortality of below 0.1%.


I mentioned it weeks ago, but if you want to look at it as apples to apples as possible, influenza kills about .27% of medical visits (38,000 deaths on 14,000,000 visits in 2016-17) and 7.6% of hospitalizations (38,000 deaths on 500,000 hospitalizations). The CDC estimates another 15,000,000 had the flu but didn't require medical attention.

Those numbers are quite obviously difficult to gather on a virus that didn't exist in humans 5 months ago.
Posted by Ba Ba Boooey
Northshore
Member since May 2010
4729 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:45 am to
I work at a pharmacy and we cannot order masks from any distributor. Nobody can so that’s probably why you see some without masks
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:47 am to
Reuters

quote:

JUST IN: The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in Italy totals 888, including 21 deaths and 46 patients who have recovered - official
Posted by MonroeTigerstripes
Member since Jul 2016
572 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:50 am to
Have there been any reported deaths in infants or children? My SO travels for work. As a parent of two littles, this is obviously my biggest concern.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:50 am to
On the CDC briefing call that just ended they announced the media line number for people to call in with questions. I can't imagine that that number won't blow up now.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:51 am to
quote:

We aren’t being prudent though, not as a society.

Everyone is currently pushing the “panic button”.

Not me. I'm gonna go home and push the "cook some delicious chicken in a red gravy and drink a couple of bottles of wine and watch LSU baseball button".
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:52 am to
I'm just trying to fathom how much Iran would have to underreport for there to be 200+ deaths.
Posted by chimesstreet
Bucks County, PA
Member since Jan 2008
1846 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:54 am to
quote:

Have there been any reported deaths in infants or children?


Not that I have heard. From what I have heard, children seem the least vulnerable.

This article is a week old, but has numbers from China. NPR Article.

ETA: Article from yesterday. China has no reported deaths under age 10.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:54 am to
I don't think Iran knows wtf is going on in Iran. Poor sanitary conditions and healthcare and just a terrible infrastructure overall.

They must have run out of Q-Tips and oil for the anuses.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 11:55 am
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I'm just trying to fathom how much Iran would have to underreport for there to be 200+ deaths.


Conservatively? Probably need somewhere around 5,000 cases to get that many deaths (using a 4% case fatality rate).

Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:57 am to
Got a shite load in sterile packages. And the wife wanted to trash them.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Have there been any reported deaths in infants or children? My SO travels for work. As a parent of two littles, this is obviously my biggest concern.

Every country's reporting pretty much agrees that this thing is disproportionately hammering the old. Starting at 40 or 50, the risk from this disease starts going up and by the time you get to the 60 and 70 year olds, you start seeing some uncomfortable mortality rates. I'd be more worried about my parents getting this than my kids, though, ideally neither gets it. I don't know if anyone's even reported deaths of any kids under 10 years old yet.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 12:02 pm
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 11:59 am to
quote:

I don't think Iran knows wtf is going on in Iran

Large close gatherings 5 times a day for prayers could lead to rapid spread.

quote:

I'm just trying to fathom how much Iran would have to underreport for there to be 200+ deaths.

At about 5% CFR, there are probably around 4,000-5,000 infected.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 2/28/20 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

I mentioned it weeks ago, but if you want to look at it as apples to apples as possible, influenza kills about .27% of medical visits (38,000 deaths on 14,000,000 visits in 2016-17) and 7.6% of hospitalizations (38,000 deaths on 500,000 hospitalizations). The CDC estimates another 15,000,000 had the flu but didn't require medical attention.


Can you link this? I’d like to see what the definition of medical visits is. Are we talking office visits?
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