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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:41 am to WaWaWeeWa
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This was my only point. I’m far from an expert on that stuff though.
It's cool man. I got this. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
The market's last week doesn't really bother me much. Runups have to end and I'd been expecting it for a while. WHY it corrects doesn't concern me as much as getting it done and out of our system and moving forward.
I gots money I want to put to work at a much more efficient buy-in point!
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:45 am to DollaChoppa
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I’m going to japan for 3 weeks at the end of April and these are my thoughts as well. I’m about to hit my PTO cap anyway and have a place to stay for as long as id need. So it really doesn’t bother me. Should be able to manage between working remotely and taking time off.
Nice. A friend going with her is an ER doctor, so that's some nice insurance.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:45 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I haven’t seen a single person “panic” yet.
Have you read this thread?
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:46 am to WaWaWeeWa
Still a ton of money to be made in the market, up $6k over the past 3 days day trading
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:47 am to Mizzoufan26
So I got a pack of the n95 masks.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:49 am to Roll Tide Ravens
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So I got a pack of the n95 masks.
They'll make great conversation pieces some day.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:50 am to rds dc
People need to remember that mortality rate and CFR are different and mixing the two can cause confusion. Also, we are experiencing case resolution bias in the current CFR (cases without a resolution that may eventually result in death will shift the final CFR).
SK is currently reporting 2,297 active cases, 27 discharges and 13 deaths. It is probably too early to try and pin down mortality or CFR for SK cases.
LINK
The models that I have seen over the last few days that are incorporating new data from outside of China are showing CFR between 1 - 3%. You can probably make some assumptions about the SK cases and be pretty confident that the final CFR in SK will be closer to 1% than 3%. The below is form the WHO report but the progression will probably apply across most cases.

SK is currently reporting 2,297 active cases, 27 discharges and 13 deaths. It is probably too early to try and pin down mortality or CFR for SK cases.
LINK
The models that I have seen over the last few days that are incorporating new data from outside of China are showing CFR between 1 - 3%. You can probably make some assumptions about the SK cases and be pretty confident that the final CFR in SK will be closer to 1% than 3%. The below is form the WHO report but the progression will probably apply across most cases.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:52 am to Volvagia
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Have you read this thread?
I don’t equate what people say on a message board to what they do in real life. So no, I don’t think discussing possible outcomes is panic.
Now if everyone empties the supermarket shelves then I will agree with you.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:56 am to WaWaWeeWa
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Now if everyone empties the supermarket shelves then I will agree with you.
We should start a pool.
Everyone gets to pick which day they think is going to be Milk Sandwich Day in Baton Rouge. We'll declare Milk Sandwich Day to be the first day the news shows an empty milk or bread shelf. People can also choose "none". Multiple people can choose the same day or none as well. Hurricane season brings it's own Milk Sandwich Days, so If Corona Milk Sandwich Day has not arrived by the beginning of hurricane season on June 1, "none" will be the winning day.
Winners will split the winnings equally, unless it can't be equally divided. Then, the winner will be decided by a battle royale to the death amongst all the correct pickers. Winner take all in that case.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 2/28/20 at 9:58 am to WaWaWeeWa
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I don’t equate what people say on a message board to what they do in real life. So no, I don’t think discussing possible outcomes is panic.
I always apply a 50% trolling factor to anything posted
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:01 am to TigerstuckinMS
If we are talking US, there was a run on toilet paper and paper towels at a Hawaii Costco yesterday: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vtcv24BacUA
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:02 am to rds dc
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:04 am to Jon Ham
Yeah, well being on an island is a little different than mainland, especially with possible impacts to supply chains and us having been through shortages. When shite is gone there’s no driving an extra 20 miles
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:08 am to rds dc
Obviously anecdotal, but I talked to colleagues today in Singapore, China, Hong Kong and Italy.
Italy (Milan) guy brushed it off completely and said there was nothing but a common flu and there wasn't panic there.
China (Shanghai) said that things are starting to get back to normal. She mentioned that some Koreans were going to China for quarantine because China knew how to deal with it best. That part seemed a bit out there.
Hong Kong -Anxiety is easing. Mostly just going stir crazy.
Singapore - All business. No mention of emotions but sent a very thorough detailed list of precautions they are taking including taking temperatures of all employees upon arrival at work and leaving. Keeping teams isolated. Installing hand sanitizers in vehicles and on and on.
Singapore has it's shite together.
Again, just small examples but I found it interesting how the hot zones are reacting. I'll touch base with Japan later.
Italy (Milan) guy brushed it off completely and said there was nothing but a common flu and there wasn't panic there.
China (Shanghai) said that things are starting to get back to normal. She mentioned that some Koreans were going to China for quarantine because China knew how to deal with it best. That part seemed a bit out there.
Hong Kong -Anxiety is easing. Mostly just going stir crazy.
Singapore - All business. No mention of emotions but sent a very thorough detailed list of precautions they are taking including taking temperatures of all employees upon arrival at work and leaving. Keeping teams isolated. Installing hand sanitizers in vehicles and on and on.
Singapore has it's shite together.
Again, just small examples but I found it interesting how the hot zones are reacting. I'll touch base with Japan later.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:09 am to rds dc
Interesting article:
LINK to PDF
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Andrew J. Rennekamp
@AJRennekamp
New #SARSCoV2 #COVID19 paper just accepted at Cell! Cell entry depends on ACE2 and TMPRSS2 and is blocked by a clinically-proven protease inhibitor. #2019nCoV LINK
3:20 PM · Feb 27, 2020·Twitter Web App
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Collectively, our present findings and previous work highlight TMPRSS2 as a host cell factor which is critical for spread of several clinically relevant viruses, including influenza A viruses and coronaviruses (Gierer et al., 2013; Glowacka et al., 2011; Iwata-Yoshikawa et al., 2019; Kawase et al., 2012; Matsuyama et al., 2010; Shulla et al., 2011; Zhou et al., 2015). In contrast, TMPRSS2 is dispensable for development and homeostasis (Kim et al., 2006) and thus constitutes an attractive drug target. In this context, it is noteworthy that the serine protease inhibitor camostat mesylate, which blocks TMPRSS2 activity (Kawase et al., 2012; Zhou et al., (2015), has been approved in Japan for human use, although for an unrelated indication. This compound or related ones with potentially increased antiviral activity (Yamamoto et al., 2016) could thus be considered for off-label treatment of SARS-CoV-2 infected patients.
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Although confirmation with infectious virus is pending, our results indicate that neutralizing antibody responses raised against SARS-S could offer some protection against SARS-CoV-2 infection, which may have implications for outbreak control.
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:17 am to ulsaint
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She mentioned that some Koreans were going to China for quarantine because China knew how to deal with it best.
Probably North Koreans
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:20 am to frankthetank
I read an article a few weeks ago that human body temperatures have been decreasing over the past 200 years, but that we still use 98.6 as the "healthy" number. Study from Stanford
I wonder if that will become an issue when taking people's temperatures to detect the virus.
I heard on the news that several countries are using the taking of temperature to determine if people are safe to travel. Anyone hear what temperature they are using as a baseline?
I wonder if that will become an issue when taking people's temperatures to detect the virus.
I heard on the news that several countries are using the taking of temperature to determine if people are safe to travel. Anyone hear what temperature they are using as a baseline?
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:22 am to rds dc
Updates from WHO briefing:
- Risk Assessment raised to "Very High" but not yet considered a pandemic
- Containment still possible
- No signs yet that virus spread will be slowed by summer
- Risk Assessment raised to "Very High" but not yet considered a pandemic
- Containment still possible
- No signs yet that virus spread will be slowed by summer
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:25 am to chimesstreet
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I wonder if that will become an issue when taking people's temperatures to detect the virus.
I doubt it. The variance in the temperature monitoring equipment they are using it’s probably greater than any decrease in average body temperature. Those forehead scanners they use will give you a slightly different measurement each time.
This post was edited on 2/28/20 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/28/20 at 10:31 am to rds dc
I think at the end of the day, this thing is going to have a greater financial impact than actual plague apocalyptic scenario.
The travel and trade show industry, really any big events outside the US are screwed.
Switzerland just canceled the Geneva Auto Show and banned all public/private gatherings of 1,000 people until the middle of March.
The trickle down is huge. All those record low unemployment rates? Throw that shite out the window. By summer, layoffs will start coming in droves.
Oil and gas is getting beat down. All transportation sectors are fricked. Then once people start seeing the impact, they'll stop making big purchases which hurts retail.
I've got money saved but wish I had even more cash.
One good thing that may come of all this is that the U.S. might finally embrace remote work.
The trend has been coming but I think companies are going to realize finally that forcing people to commute long distances to an office is an outdated and quite frankly inefficient and expensive model.
The travel and trade show industry, really any big events outside the US are screwed.
Switzerland just canceled the Geneva Auto Show and banned all public/private gatherings of 1,000 people until the middle of March.
The trickle down is huge. All those record low unemployment rates? Throw that shite out the window. By summer, layoffs will start coming in droves.
Oil and gas is getting beat down. All transportation sectors are fricked. Then once people start seeing the impact, they'll stop making big purchases which hurts retail.
I've got money saved but wish I had even more cash.
One good thing that may come of all this is that the U.S. might finally embrace remote work.
The trend has been coming but I think companies are going to realize finally that forcing people to commute long distances to an office is an outdated and quite frankly inefficient and expensive model.
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