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re: Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) ***W.H.O. DECLARES A GLOBAL PANDEMIC***

Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by ExtraGravy
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24037 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:55 pm to
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The deniers


Deniers of what?

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She was healthy before she contracted the coronavirus, Dr. Bharat said. She had had a minor illness that required her to take a medication that suppressed her immune system somewhat, but it was not clear whether the drug made her especially vulnerable to the virus.


Probably the missing piece to her equation of getting hit hard, that and being Hispanic, a hard hit ethnicity.
Posted by MusclesofBrussels
Member since Dec 2015
4503 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:56 pm to
You should Google search the word "anomaly".

Quick spin through your post history has some hilarious takes on COVID too. How are all of those mass graves coming along?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 1:01 pm to
Anecdotal stories are really worthless. For every case like this there are 100,000 that wouldn’t even know they had Covid.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:25 pm to
I’m guessing they are referencing a regimen of steroids. I just had to start a prednisone pack today for inflammation in my back and hip due to an unknown cause (likely musculoskeletal injury this past weekend, but not sure). Had to go to the ER yesterday as I could barely walk. So I’m a little concerned as to how susceptible I may be to have a bad bout if I contract COVID while on the prednisone. Anyone know anything beyond just this story?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6553 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:40 pm to
Ok.

Here is a story of a flu death from 2014:
25-year-old South Bend woman dies from the flu

THIS shite HAPPENS.

Both your Covid and this flu story are sad stories, HOWEVER they are both incredibly rare, and NOT worth shutting down the economy.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:16 pm to
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I’m guessing they are referencing a regimen of steroids


No there are many other immune suppressants. I doubt they were talking about a steroid pack for back pain. If anything they are downplaying what she had and what she was taking. They like to do that.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17881 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:28 pm to
Despite media reports indicating the opposite, cases are still going down nationwide. With today's results added (a new record 583,961 tests conducted):

* The average number of daily new cases for this past week is 20,440 and 21,427 for the week before.

* The average positive test rate is 4.5% for the past week and 4.8% for the week before.

* The average number of tests per day increased from 445,350 to 455,881.

Are we still eliminating the virus from the country? YES.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:48 pm to
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No there are many other immune suppressants. I doubt they were talking about a steroid pack for back pain.


I know, but they specifically classified it as a treatment for a minor issue. Most immunosuppressant drugs that I’m aware of aren’t usually for minor ailments or acute conditions, outside of steroids.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:21 pm to
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Are we still eliminating the virus from the country? YES.


The media needs to be classified as a terrorist organization the way they are being dishonest about this.
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 3:22 am to
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media needs to be classified as a terrorist organization the way they are being dishonest about this.




Agreed. What is their motivation? To justify the damage done to the economy? More measures?
Posted by escatawpabuckeye
Member since Jan 2013
957 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 6:12 am to
well to be fair, there are lots of states where the numbers are increasing and not in a way just related to number of tests performed.

both texas and florida are seeing higher numbers than ever and Arizona is seeing higher numbers and escalating positivity with tests performed.

most of the overall decrease is related to the northeast and Illinois finally coming down.

i think the declining mortality rate is encouraging but i suspect the fear that this will become a seasonal issue like the flu until there is a vaccine is probably true
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7006 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 6:47 am to
I came off prednisone recently. It's important to supplement with vitamin D and calcium to prevent bone loss from the steroid.

As discussed here, vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor COVID-19 outcomes.

If you don't mind breaking the law, nothing works better for inflammation than does cannabis. Weed's anti-inflammatory effect is stronger than corticosteroids and 20 times stronger than aspirin. I try not to take NSAIDS but weed works synergistically with ibuprofen to defeat inflammation.

This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 7:30 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
17881 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:47 am to
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well to be fair, there are lots of states where the numbers are increasing and not in a way just related to number of tests performed.



For sure. States that basically escaped a big initial outbreak are finally getting theirs. But the tremendous declines in areas that have had their outbreaks suggests that a critical level of immunity has been achieved, as the Rt in those places has dropped far below 1.

Overall, the nation probably saw an 8% decline in real new cases this past week. That's admittedly a smaller decline than we've had recently, and it's likely the result of some infections due to the protests. But it's still a significant decline, and there's no reason to think that it won't continue.

My greatest concern is that people are going to stop wearing masks. I'm also concerned about the Trump rallies restarting. But we'll see. I think that we can still keep the Rt below 1.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:03 am to
We will have to wait and see if what is happening in Texas blows up into a huge spike like New Orleans and New York. I’m not convinced yet.

If it does. It’s not good news for the “lockdowns don’t work” crowd. It means the lockdowns most definitely stopped the spread. But at what cost? All we did was pause the spread. That’s the most frustrating thing. All of these cities that never had an outbreak shouldn’t have locked down. It didn’t achieve anything, they were eventually going to spike anyway.
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:09 am to
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I came off prednisone recently. It's important to supplement with vitamin D and calcium to prevent bone loss from the steroid.

As discussed here, vitamin D deficiency is associated with poor COVID-19 outcomes.


I had a supplement I was taking that was zinc, D3, calcium and magnesium together, but switched to just a 5000iu D supplement while on these meds since calcium can cause interference with them. I tried ibuprofen first, then switched to meloxicam, then to 800mg ibuprofen and then got a toradol shot. Nothing helped. Finally went to the ER where they gave more toradol and dilaudid. That finally helped. Took Percocet a couple times after I got home and it seemed to subside enough that I stopped after two doses. Only have one dose of steroid in so far. Still hurting today in back and hip, but I can walk.

I wouldn’t be against weed, but not gonna break the law to do it. Just gonna have to let this run it’s course I guess.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7749 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 8:18 am to
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If it does. It’s not good news for the “lockdowns don’t work” crowd.


Its not that they don't "work." Its that they are a failed strategy with no end game. Sure, a lockdown will slow the spread of cases, maybe significantly. But no matter how long you lock down, the virus will be there waiting when you emerge. The only way a lockdown would make sense is if a readily available vaccine were right around the corner.

The lockdowns were a flawed strategy that accomplished nothing. Few want to hear this, but we need to let the virus burn through and carry on as best we can. It does seem that getting a significant percentage of the population with immunity helps.
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2469 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 9:50 am to
Santiago, Chile has been on a total lockdown since the middle of May with a 85% decrease in movement. Before that they had been on an equal to US shutdown since March 13. Santiago with 7 million people has had more confirmed cases than any city in the world everyday for the last 2 weeks. There is nothing that can be done outside of Vaccine and effective medicines. The idea that a lockdown works come from China and everyone knows they lied. Cases go down as herd immunity develops.

Santiago on Total lockdown May 17

Posted by kojak
Member since Apr 2020
531 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 10:54 am to
This is still a sticky?
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1613 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:27 pm to
Yeah a lockdown was only a bandaid to figure out protocol and let the hospitals prepare. That has happened and we should be opening up smartly. No need to go into lockdown but as GOP Tiger said, masks work and should be utilized, especially indoors. To think that wearing a mask is a fluke political statement is ignorant. This is a respiratory illness spread by respiratory droplets.
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