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Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:41 pm to lsunurse
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If their are nearing full ICU capacity..,,not good.
What percentage of that is covid?
Our ICU is almost full but minimal covid
Posted on 6/8/20 at 4:43 pm to lsunurse
That’s fine. I’m not saying you are wrong. I’m just saying other hospitals said the same thing and there were no disasters.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:56 am to frankthetank
Thread title sure gets updated
Posted on 6/9/20 at 9:11 am to Jrv2damac
Shutdown hurt black owned businesses the most.
Study showing that children are less likely to test positive for SARS 2.0 compared to adults in the same household.
Preprint of a Japanese study looking at viral loads.
Study showing that children are less likely to test positive for SARS 2.0 compared to adults in the same household.
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Children of 5–17 years of age were 61% and children of 0–4 years of age were 47% less likely to have positive polymerase chain reaction results compared with adults residing in the same household.
Preprint of a Japanese study looking at viral loads.
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Median viral load at the initial sample collection was significantly higher in adults than in children and in symptomatic than in asymptomatic patients.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 4:55 pm to GOP_Tiger
This new preprint out today has some very promising results of a retrospective study of 173 patients given ivermectin in South Florida hospitals, which showed a markedly lower mortality rate than others who did not receive it.
Retrospective studies are much more prone to error than clinical trials, but there are a couple trials that should have preliminary results ready in the next week or two, so we should learn more soon.
But if the trials back up these results, then ivermectin could be the drug that we hoped HCQ was: a cheap, widely available, generic drug that can be given right after infection and help prevent more severe symptoms.
Here's hoping.
Retrospective studies are much more prone to error than clinical trials, but there are a couple trials that should have preliminary results ready in the next week or two, so we should learn more soon.
But if the trials back up these results, then ivermectin could be the drug that we hoped HCQ was: a cheap, widely available, generic drug that can be given right after infection and help prevent more severe symptoms.
Here's hoping.
Posted on 6/9/20 at 5:16 pm to GOP_Tiger
Also, today was another really good day for national testing results. Out of 432,880 tests run, there were 18,195 positive, for a positive rate of 4.2%. That means that we've now gone an entire week where the highest rate was 4.5%. We continue to see lower cases when compared week to week, even though we're running more tests.
Reopening has not caused a spike in any way shape or form. We are still eliminating the virus. Also, so far, Minnesota is still seeing a decline, though we'll obviously have to see if that holds up. I personally expect very little spread from the protests, as I think that there's almost no risk outdoors.
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Reopening has not caused a spike in any way shape or form. We are still eliminating the virus. Also, so far, Minnesota is still seeing a decline, though we'll obviously have to see if that holds up. I personally expect very little spread from the protests, as I think that there's almost no risk outdoors.
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 6:32 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:Absolutely disgusting watching these looters destroy American businesses when they aren’t even infectious disease experts.
Reopening has not caused a spike in any way shape or form. We are still eliminating the virus. Also, so far, Minnesota is still seeing a decline, though we'll obviously have to see if that holds up.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:57 am to Jrv2damac
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Thread title sure gets updated
Admins changed the title.
I'll still like it to be "People are dropping dead on streets of Wuhan"
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:58 am to blueboy
Just checking in again. Gonna ask one more time.
Are. We. fricking. Dead. Yet?
And all of the people screaming the loudest for an endless shutdown were also the ones most loudly defending the riots.
Still think it's a pandemic? Still think it's a civil rights movement. Still think this article is going to age well?
Ezekiel Emanuel: U.S. Will Have 100 Million Cases Of COVID-19 In Four Weeks, Doubling Every Four Days
That's Biden's covid czar, btw.
Still think it's about safety and unity? Still think? Still?
Are. We. fricking. Dead. Yet?
And all of the people screaming the loudest for an endless shutdown were also the ones most loudly defending the riots.
Still think it's a pandemic? Still think it's a civil rights movement. Still think this article is going to age well?
Ezekiel Emanuel: U.S. Will Have 100 Million Cases Of COVID-19 In Four Weeks, Doubling Every Four Days
That's Biden's covid czar, btw.
Still think it's about safety and unity? Still think? Still?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:31 am to blueboy
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:32 am to blueboy
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Still think it's a civil rights movement
Go back to the Politard board
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:37 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
This is euromomo European excess deaths. Looking at 2017 the excess flu deaths usually occur weeks 50 to week 8
Now let’s look at 2020 Weeks 50 to 8:
There are basically no excess flu deaths weeks 50 to 8. The COVID peak is much later. All the deaths are delayed from people who would have probably died of the flu but for some reason didn’t.
I know we have talked about this before but this is the first time I’m looking at the raw data myself. This is crazy.
What if our flu vaccine was crazy effective this year and just delayed some normal deaths that instead died later of a relatively mild bug?
Now let’s look at 2020 Weeks 50 to 8:
There are basically no excess flu deaths weeks 50 to 8. The COVID peak is much later. All the deaths are delayed from people who would have probably died of the flu but for some reason didn’t.
I know we have talked about this before but this is the first time I’m looking at the raw data myself. This is crazy.
What if our flu vaccine was crazy effective this year and just delayed some normal deaths that instead died later of a relatively mild bug?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 11:06 am to WaWaWeeWa
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WaWaWeeWa
Have you seen the two shitty papers out of Nature this week talking about models and lockdown effectiveness?
One of the papers is from those Imperial College guys... They are both pretty bad with assumptions and not looking at reality.
And, oddly enough, both were initially submitted in the last two weeks of March, yet talk about how it was lockdown and only lockdown that saved millions of lives.
But it's true because of "muh peer review."
Posted on 6/10/20 at 11:43 am to blueboy
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Still think it's a pandemic?
By definition it very much is a pandemic. It just isn't very lethal to the majority of Americans and we successfully kept it from spreading as much as it could have. I wasn't a fan of the lockdowns even though they probably helped. Hindsight and all it looks like we screwed the pooch a bit.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 12:11 pm to Sasquatch Smash
I haven’t but anything submitted in March is like looking at research from 1930. Things changed so quickly.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 12:41 pm to Commander Data
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and we successfully kept it from spreading as much as it could have.
We successfully delayed it from spreading.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 12:57 pm to WaWaWeeWa
They are both pretty bad. Using circular logic and shitty assumptions to prove that shite that went into effect days before the original drafts were submitted worked.
"Reality didn't look like the apocalypse our original shitty models predicted, so that means our new models, only looking at one part of reality and still making huge assumptions, prove that lock downs work!"
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The Imperial College paper goes on to show that lock downs alone reduced transmission by like 80% on the fricking day lock down was initiated...
Acknowledges that Sweden never locked down, but somehow their graphs are the same as everywhere else. This change is merely after Sweden put an end to large public gatherings (Fig.on pg 10)...a mitigation measure that had no effect anywhere else (Fig. 2; pg 6), only Sweden.
Weird.
"Reality didn't look like the apocalypse our original shitty models predicted, so that means our new models, only looking at one part of reality and still making huge assumptions, prove that lock downs work!"
LINK
LINK
The Imperial College paper goes on to show that lock downs alone reduced transmission by like 80% on the fricking day lock down was initiated...
Acknowledges that Sweden never locked down, but somehow their graphs are the same as everywhere else. This change is merely after Sweden put an end to large public gatherings (Fig.on pg 10)...a mitigation measure that had no effect anywhere else (Fig. 2; pg 6), only Sweden.
Weird.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:41 pm to Sasquatch Smash
Yeah, there are other studies showing that mobility drastically dropped in the US before shutdowns. In other words, people made up their minds to stay home before the government ordered it. The shutdowns only mattered on the margins -- most of what drove everything was information.
As I said at the time, that made both the economic consequences and the impact on spread of government orders less than people on "either side" want to believe.
As I said at the time, that made both the economic consequences and the impact on spread of government orders less than people on "either side" want to believe.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:03 pm to GOP_Tiger
Man, if that’s true my family has been safe since 2017 when my 9 month old somehow got pinworm and we all had to take it. Perfect
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