re: Cornell University Situation Is Going To Turn Into Another Duke Lacrosse Case Isn't It?

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You can't say that without knowing what actually happened.

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You absolutely can. Even if you just look at the statement from 2024 you can tell these kids are assholes and that it never should have went as far as it did. It doesnt make it illegal but it does make them assholes.

You don't need to know legal specifics to know what occurred there went too far and should have been stopped and prevented from one or more of those young men.

Even if the Jane never dissented one or more of them should have protected her from herself and his brothers.

The thing is, you know that. You're just trying to be an know it all a-hole.

If you want to take it from the Bible, it says men present the role as protectors through principles of servant leadership, sacrifice, and caring for the vulnerable.

If you want to take it from the modern ethics of guardianship, he code of a protector s a set of unwritten principles focused on using strength, influence, and capability to safeguard others from harm from outside people and factors AND themselves.

A code of protection is foundational to almost every thriving society in human history whether it be chilvary (in europe), bushido in asia, native american warrior ethics and selfless service prevents and reduces internal chaos and predatory behavior.

They may not be criminals but they are weak, spineless assholes. As young men, they have a responsibility to themselves, their brothers and those incapable of protecting themselves from situations like this.

And you know it. Thats the worst part of you arguing against it. It's sad that you'll compromise your own character for a social media argument. Shouldn't[t be a suprise at this point though but I admit, I overestimated you.

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I'd say her initial statements hold more weight than what she is trying to say later for a lawsuit in order to get paid. Initially she probably told the actual truth because she got it in her mind that what the boys did was rape (to cover for her poor decisions) when by law it turns out it wasn't. So for the lawsuit she has to then backtrack to make it rape.

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I do concede that that is a possible scenario. But to add on as another potential, what if it took time for her to process what actually happened and that she was indeed actually victimized? As the OP stated, there are times where women have been beat, but they still go back to their abusers, cover up for them, even going as far as to attack those trying to help them. Does this mean she was never abused?
Victims do not always immediately know that they are victims. I don't completely understand the logic either. It's not something I have personally experienced, and I never will. But it is the experience for some others.

I'm not saying with certainty that I know this is 100% what happened. But at the same time, it is not unheard of or a completely possibility either.

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But to add on as another potential, what if it took time for her to process what actually happened and that she was indeed actually victimized?

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Or what if she got slut shamed, had a roommate in her ear telling it was actually rape and not her fault, and then got pissed because she got disinvited from a Halloween party she desperately wanted to attend at the house where she was “raped”?

Oh it was actually just her processing!!! Frick off with this modern therapy “processing” BS. The only processing she did was deciding that this was a way to flip the script from drug whore to martyr.

I had a roomate in college who had a 1600 on SAT. That was the dumbest person I associated with freshman year.

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Are you open at all to your current position being wrong?

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do you understand that 100% of the posters here would be the first to string these dudes up by their nutsacks if they were proven guilty?

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do you understand that 100% of the posters here would be the first to string these dudes up by their nutsacks if they were proven guilty?

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I understand and admire your optimism. But I do not agree on that 100% number. Some people will refuse to admit they are wrong, no matter what.

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she went to the police because after she told her friend she was embarrassed.

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I feel like we have heard this story before.

Just listened to the Megan Kelly podcast on this and it sounds like the guys are in the clear leagally.

Yeah, the dudes involved are sketchy shitheads, best case.

I just wouldn’t lump the kids who didn’t respond to the messages into the same category. There are a thousand reasons why people wouldn’t have seen or responded to the exchange in real time.