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re: Conversation with an old Mexican man about Life in Mexico
Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:40 am to Midtiger farm
Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:40 am to Midtiger farm
There is an excellent book on this topic: Underground Empires by James Mills.
He portrays the cartels as mere thug underlings to the real power.
It's a chilling book. Facts presented allowing reader to deduce the rest of the players. Backs up stories that came out later about the Clinton's, Barry Seal and Arkansas airport deliveries. Former CIA director George H. Bush (who went on to ally with Clinton on charitible Hatian relief foundation) gets a mention.
It was written in the eighties but the only the names of the players have changed.
The amount of cooperation between every agency of law enforcement up to national level with animalistic narco-criminals makes the current McCabe /Comey attempted coup on behalf of Hillary all the more sinister.
There was a copy of the book in the LSU library at least up until the 90's. Started reading it in the stacks. Finished reading it in the carrels over a period of weeks because I didn't want it on my card/record. Can almost hear X-files theme now thinking about it.
He portrays the cartels as mere thug underlings to the real power.
It's a chilling book. Facts presented allowing reader to deduce the rest of the players. Backs up stories that came out later about the Clinton's, Barry Seal and Arkansas airport deliveries. Former CIA director George H. Bush (who went on to ally with Clinton on charitible Hatian relief foundation) gets a mention.
It was written in the eighties but the only the names of the players have changed.
The amount of cooperation between every agency of law enforcement up to national level with animalistic narco-criminals makes the current McCabe /Comey attempted coup on behalf of Hillary all the more sinister.
There was a copy of the book in the LSU library at least up until the 90's. Started reading it in the stacks. Finished reading it in the carrels over a period of weeks because I didn't want it on my card/record. Can almost hear X-files theme now thinking about it.
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:46 am to idlewatcher
quote:SHITHOLE countries
That was the 72 students he’s referring to more than likely. Still haven’t found their corpses
Amazing with all the resources at their disposal that the cartels freely operate with impunity
Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:47 am to fr33manator
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wonder if some ethnicities are more amicable to being ruled
Yep.
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some would gravitate towards a strongman
Whites have an instinctual desire for this. We pick a chief and push him to his limit... Then pick a new one.
It's one reason we've done so many fricked up things
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 6:48 am
Posted on 2/20/19 at 6:51 am to fr33manator
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It makes me wonder if some ethnicities are more amicable to being ruled while others are more apt to seek a freer life.
Whoa whoa you schlomos better not be talking about bell curves in here
It’s purely environmental factors
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:03 am to JPLSU1981
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Has anyone ever considered legalizing drugs??
Bingo, problem solved.
Oh bullshite. Crimes related to drugs often are committed by people that can't afford to buy those drugs. Legalizing drugs will only create more addicts here and create more crime. I'm not talking about weed. I'd talking about addictive and dangerous drugs like opiates and cocaine and meth.
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the Journal of Substance Abuse Treatment noted that more than 75 percent of people who begin treatment for drug addiction report having performed various acts of violence, including (but not limited to) mugging, physical assault, and using a weapon to attack another person.
LINK
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 7:17 am
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:28 am to fr33manator
America is one of the main drivers of the cartels' power
With no demand, there is no market
With no demand, there is no market
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:40 am to VABuckeye
Reports are that legalizing pot has failed to reap the rewards promised.
LINK
Hmmm...Liberal Californians would rather buy weed from criminal terrorists than pay taxes on ethically-produced, locally-sourced product.
Irony is: evidence suggests illegal drugs fund CIA/FBI other big brother government agencies via kickbacks from cartels while legal purchases would fund their local government, schools and municipal services.
LINK
Hmmm...Liberal Californians would rather buy weed from criminal terrorists than pay taxes on ethically-produced, locally-sourced product.
Irony is: evidence suggests illegal drugs fund CIA/FBI other big brother government agencies via kickbacks from cartels while legal purchases would fund their local government, schools and municipal services.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:03 am to DeCat ODahouse
The homeless population in Denver has risen dramatically since weed was legalized.
Watch Murder Mountain on Netflix. It's not a peaceful industry in the US either.
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Liberal Californians would rather buy weed from criminal terrorists than pay taxes on ethically-produced, locally-sourced product.
Watch Murder Mountain on Netflix. It's not a peaceful industry in the US either.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:12 am to DeCat ODahouse
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Reports are that legalizing pot has failed to reap the rewards promised.
Reading that article it seems the failure lies more with how California chose to implement pot legalization than anything having to do with actually using the drug.
And using the fact that 75% of all drug addicts have reported committing a crime to support their habit as an excuse to keep drugs illegal is disingenuous. You're ignoring the fact that legalizing drugs eliminates most of the reasons for committing crimes to get the drugs. And if someone is going to commit a crime because they can't afford to buy the drugs they want then they're going to commit crimes for anything they can't afford.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:18 am to Merck
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You're ignoring the fact that legalizing drugs eliminates most of the reasons for committing crimes to get the drugs.
Say what? Those crimes aren't for purchasing the drugs. They're crimes committed to get the money to purchase the drugs. That problem doesn't go away just because drugs are legalized. If anything, the problem most likely grows much worse as more people become addicts.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:52 am to fr33manator
Open borders and love, y’all.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:52 am to fr33manator
My question is, lets say you do your electrician work for the cartel. You complete the job after a few years, do they let you go back to normal life? I doubt they throw you some lavish retirement from the Mexican cartel party, but hell just not being killed is a win win.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:22 am to Jim Rockford
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Borderland Beat covers all that shite pretty well.
I know one of the reporters very well. She lives in hiding
For some reason, about 4-5 years ago that site went to crap
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:26 am to X123F45
Did this really happen?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:27 am to fr33manator
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have to launch an all out war against them. And there would be a LOT of civilian casualties. These cartels do not care about human life whatsoever.
This will never happen. Do you know how many American politicians on both sides are bought by them?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:28 am to RedFoxx
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I was in Iguala (where the students were kidnapped) and Cocula (where some of the bodies were recently discovered burned in a landfill) this past weekend.
Hadn't heard that they found some bodies. Although still terrible, that's great that the families will get some closure. quote:
The people are poor and have limited options so the cartels don't seem so bad with their flashes of wealth. There are limited jobs and opportunities there outside of the drug trade.
The people of Mexico, despite what people may think, all in all are great and kind people. Very hospitable as well. Problem is the good people are battling both the cartels and the Government. Once they tried arming themselves to protect themselves, they all got arrested. So messed up.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:43 am to Jim Rockford
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The Colombian cartels were strong enough that they believed they could take over the country militarily and began making moves in that direction. At that point the government realized it was fight or die, and crushed them. When the Mexican elites perceive that the narcos are an existential threat and not someone they can be in bed with, they will get serious about defeating them.
Exactly. The Colombian people are different than the Mexican people though. Colombian mindset is a lot closer to the European ways than Mexicans, per capita. Colombia is lot more like the southern US, and so is much of south america. Central America/mexico has a lot more indian in them, and smaller euro pop that keeps down the indians that are exposable. Either send the poor to the US or use them as soldiers to fight.
Oh lots of Colombians moved to MX too. So mx cartel tactics are just building on what the Colombians brought with them.
Ohhhhhh and reading the op was like a run down of Sicarro movies which are awesome.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:47 am to cattus
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Their tourism has gone shite.
Good
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:47 am to Cold Drink
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If you upvoted the OP you probably don’t have a passport and I’ll leave it at that.
lol either that or we have a passport and we're not naive.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:57 am to idlewatcher
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The people of Mexico, despite what people may think, all in all are great and kind people.
Absolutely right. I've been lucky to travel to many countries and Mexicans are by far the nicest and most generous people I've encountered.
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