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re: Contractor won't give me an estimate

Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:40 pm to
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Have you always been an adjuster? I was wondering if I would like that job......I'd imagine you're pretty busy. Do you work for an insurance company or FEMA?


I am an independent and been doing it 12 years, it really isn't an easy field to get started in, unless there is a major event like a hurricane. NFIP requires a minimum number of years to get licensed for flood.
Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:42 pm to
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We always tell clients not to turn in our estimates until they've received an estimate from their adjuster. That way we can argue with the insurer about #s that are too low and we can bump up our #s that we were lower on. It gets the client more money out of the insurer.


This is FEMA, not insurance. They aren't going to negotiate with contractors moron.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:42 pm to
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In other words if they offer you $100k, you cant just take $70k to repair the house and $30k to buy more contents?


It is broken down by coverage. There is a limit on each coverage and they are paid by coverage. The insured can't save money from structure to pay for contents, but sometimes you can use content money to pay for the structure.
This post was edited on 9/1/16 at 12:43 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72710 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:43 pm to
Tell him to frick off.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:43 pm to
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This is FEMA, not insurance. They aren't going to negotiate with contractors moron.


Please exit, stage left...
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:43 pm to
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I am an independent and been doing it 12 years, it really isn't an easy field to get started in, unless there is a major event like a hurricane. NFIP requires a minimum number of years to get licensed for flood.


Also, let's say you removed it yourself. How does FEMA cost that in while others are getting quotes for the whole thing done by someone else?

I understand there is no perfect way and its easy to scam in these situations.
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
11079 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:44 pm to
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This is FEMA, not insurance. They aren't going to negotiate with contractors moron.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184473 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:45 pm to
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because he doesn't want to leave any money on the table. How shady is this?


frick that guy for wanting to run a business to actually turn a profit!!!!

Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:45 pm to
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It is broken down by coverage. There is a limit on each coverage and they are paid by coverage. The insured can't save money from structure to pay for contents, but sometimes you can use content money to pay for the structure.



Not sure how FEMA works but after Katrina I got 2 checks from my Insurance company, one for structure and one for contents. Then another from SBA....they didnt give a shite what amount went where.

We ended up having enough to add a bathroom and add on 400 sq ft.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184473 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:47 pm to
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Report him to the board





For what?

The board has pretty limited powers and can only enforce license laws. He isn't doing anything against license law.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:48 pm to
The estimate is more than likely written in Xactimate, but there are a couple of estimating software out there. The software probably has 100k operations that include labor, material and equipment cost to do a task. These prices are updated monthly for the entire country by zip code. For example, the removal of drywall will be paid the same, buy the software price to remove it. If the homeowner does the work then they can keep/ earn the work that they complete. If demo and cleanup was $5k, then that money should stay with the homeowner.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Report him to the board



Biggest bunch of crooks in the State

LINK

quote:

Larry Bankston, a former Democrat state senator from Baton Rouge who served 41 months in prison for a 1997 conviction on a video-poker related bribery scheme.

"Mr. Bankston is a convicted felon who has been previously disbarred," Landry said in a letter to Michael McDuff, executive director of the 15-member panel.

"An attorney who represents the board acts in a fiduciary capacity to the board and is a legal representative of the state of Louisiana," he wrote.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
184473 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
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he contractor probably wants to know how much his FEMA budget is because if he's only going to be getting $15k back from FEMA and he knows there is at least $80k in damages, plus he knows the OP doestn have insurance, where is the rest of the money going to come from?

He doesnt want give a quote to someone that may possibly not be able to afford it and use that quote to shop around





Quit using logic here. We all have out pitchforks out!!!!
Posted by lsufan31
MS
Member since Mar 2013
2211 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
Real shady. Get someone else.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
46419 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Not sure how FEMA works but after Katrina I got 2 checks from my Insurance company, one for structure and one for contents. Then another from SBA....they didnt give a shite what amount went where.

We ended up having enough to add a bathroom and add on 400 sq ft.


Nothing about Katrina was typical and will probably not be seen again. We were paying out policy limits on flood within a certain zip codes without even going to the home...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Quit using logic here.


sorry
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70176 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:51 pm to
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Not shady, it takes a lot of time and money to write and estimate in xactimate. He can take the flood estimate, and look at room by room and determine if items are missing. If so he can get them added to the estimate without spending hours of time duplicating the same thing that the adjuster is doing


if he can't do his own estimate why allow him to do the work
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24440 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:51 pm to
Ok, so let's say someone wants to put in nicer cabinets so they are going to paint themselves. Is that type of thing allowed?

That's where it seems asburd to wait on FEMA for the money amount. The contractor should be able to give a quote for what work the owner wants. If they need to adjust it later do so.

But I can also see if a homeowner is being a PITA then the contractor is going to put them to the back of the line until they have a FEMA quote.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122525 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:51 pm to
After looking at this again, so you are saying the contractor told you he isn't going to give you an estimate because he wants to make sure he gives you an estimate based on what you get from FEMA?

Right now I am sure all legit contractors in the Baton Rouge area are busy. When a contractor is in high demand, its not uncommon for them to raise their price (its supply and demand).

You think the guy is saying "if you want me to do the job its going to cost you".
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/1/16 at 12:52 pm to
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We were paying out policy limits on flood within a certain zip codes without even going to the home...



yep, thats excatly what happen to me...they looked at my zip code, looked at my limits...cut the check
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