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re: Contracting while on payroll

Posted on 9/12/26 at 10:21 am to
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1839 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 10:21 am to
You need to look at your employment contract. Often any intellectual property produced that aligns with your employer’s business belongs to them regardless if it was created outside of business hours.

If you really have something, you need to quit your job and start a business.
Posted by KBI2
Member since Dec 2025
56 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 10:36 am to
Set up an Estonian e residency company online for $100. Now you have an international business entity. Hide the fact you had anything to do with the app development.

Also don’t take me seriously I read and watch too much spy shite.
This post was edited on 9/12/26 at 10:37 am
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2922 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 1:46 pm to
If you wanna chat... I can maybe steer you in the right direction or provide some advice. Shoot me an email at my TD Name at Hotmail dot com.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122616 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

and I thought if I made something that fixed the problem they would value me.





We live in a "what have you done for me lately" world. They might give you a pat on the back and tell you to keep it up, but in the future if they have to downsize they are not going keep you just because awhile back you figured out something that fixed A problem. But then again, you never know.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46847 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:05 pm to
Have a friend come up with this bright idea. Problem solved
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37700 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Have a friend come up with this bright idea. Problem solved


You’re an attorney and this is what you come up with?

What a disaster this could be
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20756 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:08 pm to
Depends on your business. My company, due to legal requirements, requires all outside business to be registered. If not, they could end up getting in big trouble.

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46847 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:10 pm to
What did you say? Can't hear you from down there
Posted by NorCali
Member since Feb 2015
1838 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:24 pm to
Normally you would disclose to them that you are working on this independently. If you didn’t, you may not have a way to prove you didn’t do this on company time
Posted by jmcwhrter
Member since Nov 2012
8185 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 2:39 pm to
I remember this one ..

Richard's laptop was in the shop so he used a Hooli computer to work on Pied Piper
Posted by WM88
Rayvegas
Member since Aug 2004
2117 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:26 pm to
Good luck with your upcoming legal fight and lack of employment.

Hope you find something in your field sooner than later.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2922 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 5:46 pm to
quote:

Made an app that I just did proof of concept for today.


Technically for all intensive porpises, you don't really have an actual product. You have a wireframe... a concept but not an actual thing. Right, right???

One day you may have a product but currently it's an idea. Since it's not a real product, there is no itellectual property, just an idea and I'm pretty sure you didn't sign anything applying to relinquishing all of your ideas.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 6:36 pm to
Yeah, I already told them I worked on it independently. I also have another side hustle where I’m working on drones with laser beams to do wild bird mitigation and all around bio security. I have a registered company. I apply for grants or did when they were being funded.

I got tired of helping kill hundreds of millions of birds, so I thought I might try to do something else.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
23380 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 9:15 pm to
I dont know but dont let them frick you. I worked with a guy that invented a mud pump that 100s of companies now use. Company got the royalties and he got a $1000 bonus. Spent the rest of his life working as a mechanic and died broke.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

I dont know but dont let them frick you. I worked with a guy that invented a mud pump that 100s of companies now use. Company got the royalties and he got a $1000 bonus. Spent the rest of his life working as a mechanic and died broke.


Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/12/26 at 9:33 pm to
quote:

Technically for all intensive porpises, you don't really have an actual product. You have a wireframe... a concept but not an actual thing. Right, right??? One day you may have a product but currently it's an idea. Since it's not a real product, there is no itellectual property, just an idea and I'm pretty sure you didn't sign anything applying to relinquishing all of your ideas.


Yeah not a finished product. Just a demo video I made of what it could look like.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
23467 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 9:16 am to
First off, did your PoC ingest actual proprietary company data, live internal asset telemetry, confidential GIS layers, proprietary CSV schemas with real operational secrets or did you build it on synthetic/public data?

I'd go with an enterprise annual site license with a managed SLA, or an exclusive internal lease where you operate as an internal software vendor/consultant. Never sell a flat buyout unless it's life-changing money; emergency ops tools grow in value exponentially once disaster hits.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 10:19 am to
quote:

First off, did your PoC ingest actual proprietary company data, live internal asset telemetry, confidential GIS layers, proprietary CSV schemas with real operational secrets or did you build it on synthetic/public data? I'd go with an enterprise annual site license with a managed SLA, or an exclusive internal lease where you operate as an internal software vendor/consultant. Never sell a flat buyout unless it's life-changing money; emergency ops tools grow in value exponentially once disaster hits.


No, all the data I used for the demo was fake data. Everything I designed was done so with publicly shared information and then my own work organizing that data.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Good luck with your upcoming legal fight and lack of employment. Hope you find something in your field sooner than later.


Like I said, I’m solid. But thanks for your big contribution to this thread.
Posted by DonJuanDaMiles
San Diego, CA
Member since Feb 2014
1882 posts
Posted on 9/13/26 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Have a friend come up with this bright idea. Problem solved


Could make my gf the CEO…
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