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re: Congrats to all Alabama parents of the OT: massive k-12 reform officially happening

Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
542 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:01 pm to
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Exactly. My kids attended private and parochial schools. Parents were super involved. One year, one of my children decided to try public school, it was decent, so I relight, so I said ok. The public high school? On parent/teacher night hardly any parents showed up, while the teachers stood at their doors smiling and waiting. It was sad. She went back to her private school in less than a year, her choice. The kids were awful, too


my youngest did the same the start of 10th grade. we took her out after about a month and half. they did NOTHING. math was about the only subject remotely challenging. more play days than anything because the "band would go around to the elementary schools to play so didn't have enough students for class." biology consisted of coloring a human body with crayons. the admin blamed the jr high for not preparing them esp. english. she did make some friends there,though.
Posted by Rebel920
Member since Jul 2020
98 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:30 pm to
From the article I read for 2025 and 2026 school years only families that make less than 300 percent of the national poverty line will be eligible. Starting with the 2027 school year all Alabama students will be eligible.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22443 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:33 pm to
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You don't just pay state taxes when you have a school aged child.


I’m aware. Fwiw, most families with school age children are net takers in terms of taxes vs services used. This goes well beyond the poor and extend nearly to the upper middle class.
A family of 4 with 2 kids in public school that makes under 150k is almost certainly having their lifestyle subsidized by the govt in a variety of ways.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32557 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:33 pm to
Arkansas is doing a 3 year phase in, too.

Louisiana would probably do a 25 year phase in if we ever passed something similar
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24959 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:39 pm to
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A family of 4 with 2 kids in public school that makes under 150k is almost certainly having their lifestyle subsidized by the govt in a variety of ways.


News to me as it sure as hell feels like all I do is pay pay pay
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22443 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:46 pm to
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A family of 4 with 2 kids in public school that makes under 150k is almost certainly having their lifestyle subsidized by the govt in a variety of ways. News to me as it sure as hell feels like all I do is pay pay pay


2 kids in public schools, that’s at least 30k in expense. And that’s just school.
The overall tax liability for a family of 4 making 150k (federal and state income, property) is lower than that in most cases.



Posted by NOFOX
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9950 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 2:51 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by made4lsu
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2009
5322 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:16 pm to
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2 kids in public schools, that’s at least 30k in expense. And that’s just school.


Is this per year you are talking?

LA state budgets 4k per kid a year in public. So the 7k per year given for private is almost double what the state allocates per year for public school kids.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47690 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:22 pm to
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LA will pass it after we are surrounded by other states with it as law,


We’re not other states
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32557 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:30 pm to
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LA state budgets 4k per kid a year in public. So the 7k per year given for private is almost double what the state allocates per year for public school kids.

The way it works in Arkansas, is that 90% of the allocated amount per child is put in that child's account. So if Louisiana only allocates 4k per child, then only 3.6k would go into that child's account (if Louisiana followed the same model). I'm not certain exactly how Alabama is going to do their allocation.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19510 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:35 pm to
If there's anything the student loan debacle taught us, is that turning on the public money spigot to educational institutions that are otherwise doing fine - it means only good outcomes for students.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26834 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:45 pm to
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Oh and all parents have a CHOICE now to help their kids with homework, make them read, keep them occupied with some kind of productive hobby…but they don’t. That is why public school sucks. Because a bunch of low IQ people have kids with the same genes and on top of that don’t give a shite about them.

So public schools won’t be fixed unless you focus more on discipline and basics and magically sending kids to a private school does nothing.


Even in the shittiest schools there are at least a few students who care and their parents care. This would give them the option to go to a different school without the animals at their current school.
Posted by made4lsu
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2009
5322 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 3:50 pm to
The laws passed are currently what is making public schools a terrible environment. They minimize the discipline that can be imposed on students misbehaving. They pressure teachers to pass kids that don’t do their work or pass test. Kids/parents see this and have no incentive to try or care. The laws set our schools up for failure and it’s only getting worse.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26834 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 4:24 pm to
I agreed.

I haven't read this whole law, and perhaps it's all bullshite.

But I am generally for anything that allows parents to pull their children out of shitty schools.
Posted by PGAOLDBawNeVaBroke
Member since Dec 2023
711 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 11:33 am to
Spoken like a true welfare state arse clown that wants the gov to control his life

Moron
Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 12:11 pm to
The 4k a year will definitely help with homeschooling
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:01 pm to
Too little too late
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8160 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:09 pm to
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School choice is good for everyone.

Except those evil people who want to groom and indoctrinate children with their twisted ideology.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6375 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:13 pm to
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Alabama private schools tuition is probably half of some other states


And it’s about to go up by about whatever the credit is.

Also, get ready for a bunch of fly by night private schools opening up in strip malls.
This post was edited on 3/8/24 at 3:16 pm
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18430 posts
Posted on 3/8/24 at 3:19 pm to
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Spoken like a true welfare state arse clown that wants the gov to control his life


You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Please reference one line that reveals a “welfare state arse clown…”?

I can’t imagine walking around as an NPC. It has to be…blissful probably.
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