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re: Congrats to all Alabama parents of the OT: massive k-12 reform officially happening

Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22446 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:20 am to
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So now people of Alabama can actually use their tax dollars on their own children and stop subsidizing these shitty schools with tenured teachers who can't be fired? Oh no, the horror.


It sounds like for most in Alabama, they’ll be using someone else’s tax dollars..most don’t pay enough to cover the 7k credit.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:27 am to
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Probably close to the same percentage in other states. Alabama private schools tuition is probably half of some other states


Not anymore, now that the state will be effectively subsidizing private schools.
Posted by Dixie2023
Member since Mar 2023
1498 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:33 am to
Exactly. My kids attended private and parochial schools. Parents were super involved. One year, one of my children decided to try public school, it was decent, so I relight, so I said ok. The public high school? On parent/teacher night hardly any parents showed up, while the teachers stood at their doors smiling and waiting. It was sad. She went back to her private school in less than a year, her choice. The kids were awful, too.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22012 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:36 am to
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Not anymore, now that the state will be effectively subsidizing private schools.


I went to private school in Alabama. Current tuition at my high school -- where my niece and nephews also went -- is 15k a year. So, while subsidized, if you send your kids there you could already afford it.

Also many private schools in Alabama soft cap their enrollment and are very selective about who they let in.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
943 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 7:54 am to
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Sounds like the cost of private school is about to go up


Oklahoma passed a similar bill that went into effect in 2023. Most of the private schools in Oklahoma magically raised their tuition around the same amount of the tax credit after the bill passed. So the people who couldn't afford a private school still cannot afford a private school with the increased tuition. All you need to do is follow the money on who are pushing these type of laws.
Posted by OLDBEACHCOMBER
Member since Jan 2004
7195 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:00 am to
Jay Are< Looks lie your school system may have led you astray. It's cheaper to fund students than schools. Everybody wins, except the bureaucrats.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10374 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:09 am to
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Shelby Co is probably going to be crazy though. Lot of small schools will lose students to Thompson, Pelham, and Oak Mtn.

Only one of those is actually in the Shelby Co. school district. Guess I need to read the bill, but I don't see how exactly they can add a ton more students from the outer reaches of the county without the infrastructure to handle it.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6874 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:10 am to

Existing private schools will just raise their tuition by $7k to keep the same level of exclusivity.

A number of new private schools will now pop up charging exactly $7k though. I have no doubt some will be good and focused on education, but I can definitely see some people taking advantage of this just charging families $7k for a sub-par education.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 8:13 am
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22370 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:14 am to
Sure, but they’ll adjust… supply and demand.

Private school in TN is $30k+ bc there’s the demand.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64275 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:17 am to
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Your choice of public school sounds good. The government funding your choice of private school sounds like a joke. Those are businesses, and a citizen can choose to spend their money or not. Why would the small government people be okay with this? Including homeschooling in this sounds like a tax scam waiting to happen.


Always the fricking pelicans favorite team posters.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25948 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:18 am to
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public high school? On parent/teacher night hardly any parents showed up, while the teachers stood at their doors smiling and waiting. It was sad.


public school teacher here
I have 170 students on my rosters
I had less than 20 parents total show up for open house

Its fewer and fewer every year.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
64275 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:19 am to
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So public schools won’t be fixed unless you focus more on discipline and basics and magically sending kids to a private school does nothing.


Those kids still have get into the private schools and abide by their standards.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18684 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:20 am to
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School choice is good for everyone.


Not true. It’s actually really bad for the leftist, groomer, indoctrinators who don’t care about educating only indoctrination.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68342 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:21 am to
Congratulations Alabama on Section 8ing private schools.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68342 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:26 am to
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The government funding your choice of private school sounds like a joke
Sounds like a handout. "Conservatives" love handouts when it comes to them.

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Why would the small government people be okay with this? 

Free shite. The amount that they are given far exceeds the amout they've paid in taxes to the public school system, especially if they have more than one kid.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22012 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:30 am to
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Only one of those is actually in the Shelby Co. school district. Guess I need to read the bill, but I don't see how exactly they can add a ton more students from the outer reaches of the county without the infrastructure to handle it.


Well yes, but it doesn't have to be within the same school system. The school just has to let you in. They have absolute right off refusal if I'm reading it correctly.

So a small school like Montevallo will bleed students to Thompson which is only about 6 miles up the road and has vastly superior facilities and programs.

Eta: So small schools will just get worse and worse because the better schools will poach the better students.
This post was edited on 3/7/24 at 8:34 am
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6579 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:34 am to
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Those kids still have get into the private schools and abide by their standards.


Not when charter schools are involved. That’s a money grift that this school choice funds. Those are public schools in all but name.
Posted by GCTigahs
Member since Oct 2014
2038 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:36 am to
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So all the best schools are about to get overloaded with trash


If a parent is concerned enough about their child's education and willing/able to transport that kid to and from their new school since the district won't be sending a bus out to pick them up, I wouldn't consider them trash.
Posted by MartinMan81
Alabama
Member since May 2023
2 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:40 am to
I'm sure it is like that is some schools but I didn't see it in ours. We have two children in two different MB schools. The open house this year was so filled with parents that the hallways were jammed and it was difficult to move during class changes. Every single seat in every classroom that I went to was taken up by parents with some having to stand. Parent involvement is still alive and well in some schools.
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22012 posts
Posted on 3/7/24 at 8:45 am to
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I'm sure it is like that is some schools but I didn't see it in ours. We have two children in two different MB schools. The open house this year was so filled with parents that the hallways were jammed and it was difficult to move during class changes. Every single seat in every classroom that I went to was taken up by parents with some having to stand. Parent involvement is still alive and well in some schools.


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