re: Colorado: If you don’t disclose job opening expected salary…..

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Entitlement.

There are ways around it.

1) Tell them you want to know salary range before interviewing.

2) Only apply to jobs that list your acceptable price range.


Solves your problem.

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Most jobs don't post a salary range

So it is in fact a waste of everyone's time

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Entitlement.

There are ways around it.

1) Tell them you want to know salary range before interviewing.

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I love How you fluctuate between calling people entitled and demanding people know their worth.

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Are you hiring them both for the same exact position, while expecting the same results from them?

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Obviously the position is the same, but why would you expect the same results from the less experienced applicant as the more experienced applicant?

If I'm the one hiring for that position, then I want someone with more experience than the minimum, but the minimum is only there to weed out unqualified, less experienced individuals. It doesn't mean I'm willing to pay someone with the minimum experience the same as someone with twice the minimum.

At my old company, my position had 3 different levels. They advertised for those positions under a generic job title, not "Job A, Level 1". When I was hired, I had very little experience in the field, so I was hired as a Level 1. A year later, after I had been promoted to a Level 2, we advertised for another member of the team. We got some applicants like I was when I started--little experience. We also got a guy that had been doing the work for a while, and had a few years experience. We hired him as a Level 2, with full expectations that we weren't going to have to train him and could expect him to handle more complex job responsibilities than a Level 1.

Same thing goes with that position. It may technically be the same job no matter who is hired, but the guy with more experience could be expected to be able to handle alot more situations than someone with less experience.

Just because job duties are the same doesn't mean someone with less experience can handle every situation the same way as someone with more experience.

If you need any proof of why that doesn't work, look at the federal government. Two people can be at the same grade level, making the same pay, when one clearly has more experience and outperforms the other. But because of the federal payscale, both are paid the same amount.

The private sector should not be set up the same way. You want the best, you should pay for it. You should get what you pay for.

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If you need any proof of why that doesn't work, look at the federal government. Two people can be at the same grade level, making the same pay, when one clearly has more experience and outperforms the other. But because of the federal payscale, both are paid the same amount.

The private sector should not be set up the same way. You want the best, you should pay for it. You should get what you pay for.

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I don’t think anyone here is saying that it should work that way. For the position that I mentioned earlier there was a pay band from 85k-115k, if you want to hire two analysts for that position and one is more experienced than the other, hire one at 100k and one at 85k. I don’t see how this law stops that

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. I don’t see how this law stops that

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Youre still forcing private parties to disclose information that they may not want to disclose. Sounds very nanny like.

This may also limit your starting pay.

Employers have enough HR bullshite to work through. They don't need more.

In my experience a vast majority of jobs that don't list a Salary range are either low paying or suck. If you pay well or are a great place to work, why would you not list it? I don't see any reason for an employer not to list it? As an employer, I list it. The last thing I want is to interview someone that thinks they are a hot shot and the pay not be enough, and waste everyone's time.

But furthermore, you may be a smaller company or other wise pay very well. Or maybe someone great thought they made a lot and don't, just listing the pay may entice someone over. If the pay is not listed, how are they supposed to know if they can make more or not?

I just have never understood not listing some sort of pay. Its very easy to clearly state in an interview that the top pay range is only for X-years of experience or whatever.

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I don’t think anyone here is saying that it should work that way.

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Really? Because Kujo sure seems like he is. Then again, maybe he just uses terrible comparisons.

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For the position that I mentioned earlier there was a pay band from 85k-115k, if you want to hire two analysts for that position and one is more experienced than the other, hire one at 100k and one at 85k. I don’t see how this law stops that

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Who's to say they wouldn't have hired at that in the first place?

The only reason I keep seeing for this being a good thing is now people don't have to waste their time applying for jobs that they think they are above.

I don't know what kind of job descriptions people are reading, but I can generally get a good feel for whether or not I think a position is going to pay what I think I'm worth.

If I have 25 year experience as a CEO, I'm probably going to temper my salary expectations if I apply for a position that only requires 5 years of experience in a senior management position.

Actually, I'm probably not going to apply for it at all if money is an issue.

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Entitlement.

There are ways around it.

1) Tell them you want to know salary range before interviewing.

2) Only apply to jobs that list your acceptable price range.


Solves your problem.

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It's like if a dating app doesn't include location.

I have to reach out to every freaking girl and ask so how far do you live away from me?


Sure I can only respond to chicks who state location as part of their Bio, but I don't get why they wouldn't post it if it's such a material part of the selection process.

It's operationally inefficient. The end.


"Well the right guy would ask and be willing to move for me"...free market

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The answer to the problem is simple, don't apply for companies who do not list wage requirements if you dislike it, and stop asking the government to force them to.

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This is the entire solution.

If you are applying to a company/position and don't know enough about them, to the level that the pay range is a question, then you are going to have a lot more surprises to come.

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Love this idea

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"Lets force business to do what we want because it inconveniences me."

Very progressive of you.