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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You know how everyone laughed when the Defund the Police stuff tried to get psychologists-social workers to respond? This is the stuff they're referencing. Dude was clearly a little off but no danger to anyone. The last thing he needed was LEO escalating a situation to fulfill their blood lust.
I hear you. But not one person is saying that because this dude got shot.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:39 pm to Narbona
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At the very beginning of the call he says if they don't get there soon he is going to die. There are skin walkers trying to ambush him. As the dispatch lady is trying to get his information and location he says he is going to have to kill some skin walkers and for them to hurry up. He says his crystal is protecting him. Lots of hallucinations while he is talking to her. He was fleeing the skin walkers who were trying to run him off the road when he made a u turn on a dirt road and got stuck. He tells dispatch he has weapons on him and he will throw them out the window when the cops show up and he will show his hands and that he is not a threat. He is scared to get out of the car because the skin walkers might get him. The dispatch lady does a good job of staying calm and patient with him.
"They should have just walked away and left him alone." -SFP
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:41 pm to MoarKilometers
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From what i can tell they broke his window, shot him multiple times with non lethal rounds, hit him with a tazer, and possibly some mace. What else could they do?
Called him a tow truck
Right, in which case, he would still have to get out of the vehicle, before being pulled out. Maybe if he saw the tow truck it would have eased his thoughts, maybe not. Odds are it's against procedure to allow non-leo too close to an active situation.
If he wasn't so obviously impaired, maybe the cops would have simply helped push him out. At the very least, they would have called a tow truck at that point. They approached very calmly and simply. He froze up, got scared, locked himself in the vehicle, and escalated the situation at that point.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:44 pm to Steadyhands
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escalated the situation at that point.
The cops escalated the situation.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:47 pm to Street Hawk
Why did they shoot him? Murder?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:48 pm to Street Hawk
19 pages and 4 hours into this thread and I find it surprising how a few bootlickers are somehow blaming a kid obviously having a psychotic episode (drugs or otherwise), who called 911 for help, who is praying, who is contained within a locked car with the windows up and only has a knife and a rock.
The only reasonable cops were the state troopers and they were ignored. No danger to himself or others, walk away.
The only reasonable cops were the state troopers and they were ignored. No danger to himself or others, walk away.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:48 pm to Steadyhands
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He froze up, got scared, locked himself in the vehicle, and escalated the situation at that point.
I know the cops cant sit there for days but the only threat was inside the vehicle and it was limited to arms distance. Once the cops decided he had to come out of the car with the knife still in there it put them in danger and thus created the possible use of deadly force. If it takes three hours and you don't have to kill someone isn't that worth the trade off?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:50 pm to FredBear
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This sure is an odd story but it definitely seems like the cops should have been able to resolve that situation without using deadly force.
I agree completely
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they advised there was no crime, then why were the LEO still there? That's what it sounds like the supervisor said, and I agree. Why were they still there if no crime or threat of bodily harm was present?
There you go, that indicates the officer's on the scene thought that a crime had been committed. Driving while impaired is a crime.
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Regardless of any of this, it is clear to anyone, that the officers on scene needed to stay until the situation was resolved.
If there was no (1) crime or (2) threat of bodily harm, why?
The potential crime can't be confirmed until the person is properly evaluated. So again, a DUI suspect should just sit in their locked car until they sober up? It's likely, that's what this situation is, whether due to drugs or not, he should not be driving. Until a DUI suspect is confirmed, no crime or no harm has been done, right? So if the DUI suspect just sits there in a locked car, officer's should just wait or leave?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:53 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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No danger to himself or others, walk away.
He's not fit to be behind the wheel. You can argue they should have waited longer or should have tried other tactics (I agree), but they absolutely could not walk away from that situation.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:53 pm to Street Hawk
British guy gets his car stuck, calls 911 and tells the lady he has weapons in the car, then turns the car off and locks it, and then grabs the knives in the locked car while cops try to get him out.
I have some questions.
I have some questions.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:54 pm to Street Hawk
But he's white, false flag
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:04 pm to UpToPar
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They should have just walked away and left him alone." -SFP
No man leave and call a tow truck. Let the tow truck driver deal with the lunatic. Lets go get some donuts.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Make people financially responsible for wasting law enforcements time.
As soon as we can individually bill LEO for the same
In the meantime, taxpayers are footing the bill and I prefer that they don't waste 16 hours just waiting for someone like this to come to their senses. What if this happens in an area already short on officer's? Then again, if it was in a place like Nola, he would have sobered up before police ever showed up, or some thug would have removed him from the vehicle and took it.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:07 pm to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
quote:you really went there???
No danger to himself or others, walk away.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:07 pm to UpToPar
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They should have just walked away and left him alone." -SFP
Well this is one of many reasons I couldn’t be a cop. After an hour I’d be like fine. Find your own ride home. And just leave.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:08 pm to redstick13
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Was the Brit actually Pectus?
Was he a virgin?
If so, yep!
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:09 pm to dgnx6
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Well this is one of many reasons I couldn’t be a cop. After an hour I’d be like fine. Find your own ride home. And just leave.
And if the dude died or got hurt, or hurt others you would be vilified.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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And if the LEO responding never mention this as a concern?
The cops never mentioned it.
"Not guilty."
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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This guy should clearly not have been operating the vehicle in that state of being
And if the LEO responding never mention this as a concern?
Maybe it was so obvious to them that it didn't need to be stated.
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