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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:55 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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. Let's wait around for 16 hours and hope he doesn't jump or attack someone.
Those cops effectively work for that guy, so yeah, they should.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:56 pm to BuckyCheese
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BuckyCheese
You're easily the dumbest and most emotional person in this thread.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:56 pm to lsugradman
quote:What?
what the f are you talking about? Who said trust what he says?
If you're not only allowing but actually telling him to grab his weapon, you are trusting that his weapon is only a knife and not a gun.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they advised there was no crime, then why were the LEO still there? That's what it sounds like the supervisor said, and I agree. Why were they still there if no crime or threat of bodily harm was present?
It sounds like AAA should have been the route taken from the start.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Those cops effectively work for that guy, so yeah, they should.
That doesn't make them hostage to the whims of anyone present in this country.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Those cops effectively work for that guy, so yeah, they should.
Then send him the bill.
I'd totally agree to that. Make people financially responsible for wasting law enforcements time.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:00 pm to BuckyCheese
quote:You're not acting rationally right now, get ahold of yourself
A cop was standing on the hood of his car.
I don't think he was too worried about him having a gun.
Ignorant frick.
They were also asking him to get out of the car well before they had guns pulled on him, which you would know and recognize if you were acting rationally...but you're not.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:00 pm to Street Hawk
Cop that climbed all the way into the hood was itching for some action
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:01 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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That doesn't make them hostage to the whims of anyone present in this country.
If they're not going to wait, then they shouldn't respond in the first place.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Make people financially responsible for wasting law enforcements time.
As soon as we can individually bill LEO for the same
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:02 pm to Oates Mustache
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and say he has knives
So that they don't roll in and blow him away for thinking he was going to attack them, oh wait.
I feel like we are missing some important audio. In all of the 911 calls I've heard involving crashes, I've never heard dispatch ask the caller if they have weapons.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:03 pm to diat150
He only had a knife so he wasn’t a threat to anyone in that situation unless he exited the car, which he never did.
He absolutely should have gotten out of the car, but nothing in that video justified shooting him.
He absolutely should have gotten out of the car, but nothing in that video justified shooting him.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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If they're not going to wait, then they shouldn't respond in the first place.
They did wait.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:04 pm to BuckyCheese
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He was sitting in his locked car. He could have a sword and not be a threat to those cops standing there pointing their guns at him.
Frankly, frick this thread. Same old shite with a certain crowd justifying cops killing dudes* when there was zero reason for that to be the outcome.
Instead we should do what, spend millions more to make sure every Leo department has doctors/psychologists on staff?
frick that. Leos are there to protect others from potentially being harmed. This guy should clearly not have been operating the vehicle in that state of being. Remove the person from the vehicle one way or another, and he can get properly evaluated at a proper location after that. That said, the shooting was not necessary in this case, as there was much more they could have done to remove him from the vehicle.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:05 pm to Steadyhands
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frick that. Leos are there to protect others from potentially being harmed. This guy should clearly not have been operating the vehicle in that state of being. Remove the person from the vehicle one way or another,
He was stuck in the ditch. He wasn't going anywhere.
They certainly removed him from the car. In a body bag.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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As soon as we can individually bill LEO for the same
They're doing their job. The only reason they are there is some whacked out call in which the caller drew the appropriate response.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:07 pm to Ed Osteen
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Cop that climbed all the way into the hood was itching for some action
He's also the one that, after lighting the guy up, whipped out his baton and told the other guy to get out of the way while he smashed out the window.
He seemed rather enthusiastic.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:07 pm to BuckyCheese
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He was stuck in the ditch. He wasn't going anywhere.
Bill him for the time. You support that? But you, being a grown up also realize the cops are going to check that dude for drugs/alcohol/warrants.
The guy brought the cops there, its his fault they showed up to begin with.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:08 pm to Steadyhands
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This guy should clearly not have been operating the vehicle in that state of being
And if the LEO responding never mention this as a concern?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:09 pm to Areddishfish
How strange. It certainly strikes me as a self-fulfilling thing, where this British guy was so convinced of the murderousness of American police that his paranoia directly helped create what he was afraid of.
In a reasonable world, the response would be "well, you need help and you're in the middle of nowhere, we're not going to tow you out with you in the car, so you can either get out, or we'll just leave."
The two things that strike me most in this scenario are the seemingly unreasonable guy who made a rather mundane situation very convoluted, and the American police attitude that once involved they can't simply walk away. I'm not sure either of those really tipped this over, but they strike me as a common recipe for bad outcomes like this.
In a reasonable world, the response would be "well, you need help and you're in the middle of nowhere, we're not going to tow you out with you in the car, so you can either get out, or we'll just leave."
The two things that strike me most in this scenario are the seemingly unreasonable guy who made a rather mundane situation very convoluted, and the American police attitude that once involved they can't simply walk away. I'm not sure either of those really tipped this over, but they strike me as a common recipe for bad outcomes like this.
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