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re: Colorado deputies shoot and kill man who asked for help after car crash
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:09 pm to lsugradman
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:09 pm to lsugradman
quote:You're going to trust a guy that told 911 he may have to go kill the skin crawler people when he said his only weapons were knives?
Not letting the guy throw this knife out was an incredibly dumb decision. No one was at risk of being stabbed at that point.
It's absurd to think the safest policy would be to literally tell him to put his weapon in his hands and NOT to simply tell him to get out of the car and away from the weapons.
quote:Or let him grab a gun that he didn't tell you he had?
Let him get rid of the only weapon that can cause him or the officers any harm
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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LEO: we don't believe a crime has been committed
Where did they state that?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
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What about the admission of smoking when asked if he was on something and crashing his car?
Again, this is a hypothetical where they wait with him so long he sobers up. At that point, it's irrelevant.
okay, well back in the actual situation, not a hypothetical situation, they didn't and shouldn't have waited it out. Police should not be just waiting on people. They also shouldn't make the determination to shoot someone that is not an immediate threat after a little more than an hour. Rather, they should have broken the window at that point and handled business with tazers/pepper spray/whatever, to get the door open and get his bitch arse out of the vehicle.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:10 pm to lsugradman
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Not letting the guy throw this knife out was an incredibly dumb decision. No one was at risk of being stabbed at that point. Let him get rid of the only weapon that can cause him or the officers any harm. Because of that, this kid is dead instead of getting the mental help that he needed.
You believe what a guy acting like that says? I guess everytime a bum comes up to you with a sad story you give him money?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:11 pm to lsugradman
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Let him get rid of the only weapon that can cause him or the officers any harm.
And then what?
Assume/hope that's all he had?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:12 pm to diat150
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You believe what a guy acting like that says?
I would try to get this guy to show me those skinwalkers. There's money to be made.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:12 pm to shel311
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You're going to trust a guy that told 911 he may have to go kill the skin crawler people when he said his only weapons were knives?
It's absurd to think the safest policy would be to literally tell him to put his weapon in his hands and NOT to simply tell him to get out of the car and away from the weapons.
You're an incredibly ignorant person if you believe this.
He was sitting in his locked car. He could have a sword and not be a threat to those cops standing there pointing their guns at him.
Frankly, frick this thread. Same old shite with a certain crowd justifying cops killing dudes* when there was zero reason for that to be the outcome.
*As long as it's not a black guy.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:13 pm to 21zereaux
quote:That's the guy we wnat to trust and literally tell him to put weapons in his hands.
In a 911 call, obtained by 9NEWS, 22-year-old Glass tells the call taker that he's stuck. He also appears to be delusional and paranoid, saying he's seeing skin-walkers and he might have to go kill them.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:14 pm to Street Hawk
i thought the racist police only shoot black perps?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:15 pm to BuckyCheese
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He was sitting in his locked car. He could have a sword and not be a threat to those cops standing there pointing their guns at him.
Always love it when people who don't know what the frick they're talking about chime in as if they're experts.
Take a knee, sport.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:17 pm to The Boat
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Sucks he got shot and died but I’m confused as to why this guy was being such a pussy.
Psychotic break.
Everybody jokes about “send in the counselors” when defunding the police was a big topic. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to have ONE counselor on the payroll. A guy who can be called out to a situation.
Seems easier to train a counselor basic LEO training. Meaning how not to get shot only. Than it is to train a cop how to be a counselor.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:17 pm to Klark Kent
I'll bet these skinwalkers are real, we just choose to claim those who see them are insane or drugged out. Cops missed a huge opportunity.
That goes for bigfoot too, we just keep shaming the poor witnesses.
That goes for bigfoot too, we just keep shaming the poor witnesses.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:17 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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I refuse to accept that you actually believe this.
Like I said earlier in this thread, this wasn't some guy on the street with a knife doing suicide by cop.
He was isolated, stationary, and 0.0 threat to anyone in the vehicle.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:18 pm to shel311
quote:Could they have not contacted his family to get more details on his health and maybe had them try to reason with him?
But yea, how long does that song and dance go on for?
Maybe get a doctor out there who could talk to him in a way that he understand? I imagine he’s aware of the issues he has.
We can exhaust every imaginable resource to search for missing people for days but we can’t go 4 minutes without telling someone who is having an episode that we’re going to drag them out out there car?
We can’t go an hour without shooting them when the scene is controlled?
I doubt it’s realistic but I’d give police permission to tranquilize my son before blasting him in the chest. Or throw some type of sleeping gas shite in there(Idk if that’s even a thing
). My point is IF I’m his father and on scene, we better be taking as long as it fricking takes to HELP my son.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:18 pm to shel311
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Crashed car, admitted to smoking something, acting irattionally, talked about killing skin crawler people...but just leave him?
I skimmed the video and (1) I don't think it has the supervisor call and (2) I didn't hear much discussion/concern about intoxication
I will listen to it all at some point. Probably tomorrow, to see if these "intoxication" concerns were real or are memes
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:19 pm to UpToPar
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Where did they state that?
That's one possibility of data we don't know. It's just an example to show the "if" isn't some definitive word/variable.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:20 pm to LSU alum wannabe
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Everybody jokes about “send in the counselors” when defunding the police was a big topic. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to have ONE counselor on the payroll. A guy who can be called out to a situation.
Exactly.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Like I said earlier in this thread, this wasn't some guy on the street with a knife doing suicide by cop.
He was isolated, stationary, and 0.0 threat to anyone in the vehicle.
CFSB.
That doesn't lead us to "solely by LEO behavior."
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm sure they do, but things start getting real murky with whether you're dealing with a mental health episode or someone high on pcp or some other hallucinogenic.
There shouldn't be any difference
Exactly, and there isn't. The cops job in either case in this situation is to get the person under their control for everyone's safety, and then to get him properly evaluated, likely not at the scene.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:22 pm to UpToPar
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Some are arguing that it was not necessary to remove him from the vehicle at all.
Not remove him from the vehicle at all until he isn’t holding a knife seems like a better option to me, but I tend to think they should go to great lengths not to kill people unnecessarily.
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