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re: Colonizing Mars- really what’s the point?
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:11 pm to Fun Bunch
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:11 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:No, no, no.
Getting to mars, and then attempting to colonize will push human technological advancement.
There is no purpose to that idea.
The self-defeatist mentality in this thread is mindblowing.
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:13 pm to Covingtontiger77
It’s a pipe dream. Kabuki theater.
When we have everyone on Earth with clean water and food, no homeless, crime under control, infrastructure that works, a civil society, etc. then maybe try to get there with a man one time. Won’t happen in my lifetime. And it shouldn’t.
When we have everyone on Earth with clean water and food, no homeless, crime under control, infrastructure that works, a civil society, etc. then maybe try to get there with a man one time. Won’t happen in my lifetime. And it shouldn’t.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:13 pm to Covingtontiger77
We need a backup planet. Eventually either we or the robots will destroy this one. The future of the human race will be lab grown, Martian Zuckerberg DNA.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:16 pm to AUFANATL
quote:We will surely need spaceships that can support life indefinitely too. So what? There are lots of problems to solve, what's wrong with working on the ones we can right now? If no one gets started then it will never happen.
You do realize that these stars are trillions of miles away and that even the most optimistic outlook on space travel and physics would put the travel time at somewhere between 50,000 - 100,000 years.
Real life ain't like a science fiction movie.
Maybe we will figure out suspended animation. Maybe we will just have to live life as normally as possible on a ship for many generations. Whatever the case, it seems likely that before the first ship we send arrives at its destination, we will have improved technology here on earth and later launches can catch up to the first. Or, pass it by and start terraforming the destination before they arrive.
Or maybe they will all go crazy and die. That happens to explorers sometimes.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:18 pm to Deplorableinohio
quote:Uhhh it seems a whole lot easier to just terraform Mars.
When we have everyone on Earth with clean water and food, no homeless, crime under control, infrastructure that works, a civil society, etc. then maybe try to get there with a man one time.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:18 pm to Covingtontiger77
Gotta git dat Spice, baw. Do you even Dune?
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:18 pm to Scruffy
quote:you freaking people need to put your little brain power into staying out of hell instead of getting onto mars.
If we want our species to survive, we need to spread as far and wide as possible.
Start where you can. Mars is a great starting point.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:39 pm to Covingtontiger77
This isn’t a “home computer” will never take off 1980s line.
This is about traveling to other universes and galaxies.
This isn’t an advancement that will not happen. Tower of Babel type vibes.
This is about traveling to other universes and galaxies.
This isn’t an advancement that will not happen. Tower of Babel type vibes.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 9:56 pm to AUFANATL
quote:
You do realize that these stars are trillions of miles away and that even the most optimistic outlook on space travel and physics would put the travel time at somewhere between 50,000 - 100,000 years.
Estimates for one version of Project Orion (a nuclear powered spacecraft looked at in the 60’s) estimated travel time to Alpha Centauri in ~500 years. With advances in the next few hundred years (propulsion, cryogenics) who knows what’s posssible.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:04 pm to Covingtontiger77
quote:
So again what’s the point?
Mining valuable minerals. The environmental wackos not exist on Mars yet.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:28 pm to Covingtontiger77
Seems the moon would be easier. Too bad it is made up mostly of gases.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:30 pm to Covingtontiger77
Elon wants to prolong consciousness as long as possible. I’m with Elon. He’s probably smarter than you.
Feel free to die off with the rest of the nihilists. But don’t prevent other humans from trying to advance humanity. Or at least providing for a Plan B should we encounter an existential threat to this planet. It’s logical for people to have backups.
Oh and the “earth must be a perfect Utopia before people can try cool shite” can frick right off. You are the problem.
Feel free to die off with the rest of the nihilists. But don’t prevent other humans from trying to advance humanity. Or at least providing for a Plan B should we encounter an existential threat to this planet. It’s logical for people to have backups.
Oh and the “earth must be a perfect Utopia before people can try cool shite” can frick right off. You are the problem.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:34 pm to Covingtontiger77
How is this not on the first page?
quote:
So pit bulls can finally get the chance to bite Martians
This post was edited on 4/14/24 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:38 pm to Scruffy
quote:
So, your view is we shouldn’t even try?
That’s not remotely close to what I said.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:40 pm to Joehat
quote:
Humans will go extinct at some point if we cannot leave earth.
Humans will go extinct regardless.
Even if we were to find another habitable planet, those who colonize it will eventually evolve into something different. And humans (homo sapiens) will no longer exist there.
And when we are gone here, we will be GONE.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:42 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
That’s doubtful humans will go extinct in your scenario. In the event that Mars gets colonized, tech will obviously exist for humans to live in spaceships and space stations. Sure. It is possible the ones that colonize Mars may eventually mutate into a new species.
Posted on 4/14/24 at 10:59 pm to Covingtontiger77
If human beings don't start working on space exploration, colonization and travel, we have zero future. We may be primitive as hell, but this is one endeavor we all need to see clearly.
On a timeline, humans will absolutely not make it due to a self-destructive nature.
We must move outward.
On a timeline, humans will absolutely not make it due to a self-destructive nature.
We must move outward.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:38 pm to JetsetNuggs
Yeah it only takes 32000 years to get there at 80000 miles per hour
Posted on 4/14/24 at 11:58 pm to AUFANATL
quote:
Real life ain't like a science fiction movie
Funny you say that.
What were science fiction movies like 80 years ago?
40?
Anything in those movies come true?
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