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re: Colonial Pipeline gave in: $5,000,000 paid to ransomware hackers
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:13 pm to xGeauxLSUx
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:13 pm to xGeauxLSUx
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HOLY shite...welp beter buckle up!
Now that hackers know they can get away with it, there's a flood coming for sure.
It's nothing new. Maybe a higher profile than normal case, but this happens all the time.
Understand that even if you have every security measure in place... the most advanced firewall, most advanced intrusion detection systems, most advanced antivirus, etc. All it takes is one end user opening up a 0 day (a previously unknown security hole for the uninitiated), and your entire network could be screwed.
This post was edited on 5/14/21 at 6:19 pm
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Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:13 pm to njimbo39
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The FBI can’t solve a rubix cube. Y’all expected them to fix this?
From what it sounds like someone got to the hackers. Reports say they had their servers seized and funds siphoned from their wallets.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:32 pm to Adam Banks
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Colonial never gets hacked if Trump was president because they knew the consequences.
So why were hundreds of ransomware attacks carried out and ransoms paid during Trump's administration?
People eat up with politics are some of the most simple people on the planet.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 6:41 pm to Adam Banks
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Colonial never gets hacked if Trump was president because they knew the consequences.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:23 pm to jdd48
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Neither can stupid users that click anything and everything that comes into their email.
People cannot be expected to have common sense.
Posted on 5/14/21 at 7:26 pm to Obtuse1
tons of misinformation in this thread. I am actually invested in the company that is working on tracking the wallets and coins. This happens all the time and has been happening for almost a decade now. New technology allows for them to be traced and tracked at a very successful rate even with tumbling. As someone did say there are coins like monero that would make this MUCH more difficult. Also, it is beneficial for the company to pay the ransom in many cases. Many of the encryptions are not possible to break and a company that loses 10X the amount of the ransom a day is better suited to pay the ransom.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:23 am to JohnnyKilroy
I’m not expecting it to be resolved in an hour. Reality is they had damn near a week and couldn’t do anything to keep them from getting what they wanted. With the resources at their disposal that should be plenty for this type of crime no?
If I’m off base that’s fine and I’ll admit as much
If I’m off base that’s fine and I’ll admit as much
Posted on 5/16/21 at 3:37 am to 0x15E
Lol bet those idiots didn't even get the key codes to unlock the ransom. Those hackers rarely ever remove the ransom after payment. They just take the money and then laugh in your face. What a bunch of dumbasses those colonial pipeline officials are.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 6:55 am to Pedro
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I’m not expecting it to be resolved in an hour. Reality is they had damn near a week and couldn’t do anything to keep them from getting what they wanted. With the resources at their disposal that should be plenty for this type of crime no?
If I’m off base that’s fine and I’ll admit as much
I mean this kind of stuff happens frequently. It isn’t as public as this but companies have been getting hit by ransom attacks and paying the demands for years.
This same group hit a company during trump’s term and paid Darkside 14m to get their servers back.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:10 am to Pedro
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blow up the us government and start from scratch if we cant even handle a situation like this
The Federal Govt of the USA is completely incompetent at handling real world situations like this one. FedGov is a completely politicized appendage of the Leftist Regime and exists solely to serve, preserve and expand said Regime. This is an easy job compared to doing real life jobs that require competence and hard work.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:28 am to jdd48
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Again, not that simple. If their tracks were well covered, they'll either never be caught or it will take months of investigative work.
The question is, will we drop it and move on, or continue to investigate and strike them at a later date?
This situation is not entirely unlike the problem we faced with the Barbary pirates after becoming a nation. They captured merchant ships and enslaved crews and passengers, or held them for ransom. Most every country, at one time or another, paid them off, because it was cheaper and easier than military action. We did too, at first. Then later, after we decided that we had had enough, we went in (twice) and punished them. Got to figure out who they are and where they live first, and that will take time.
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 9:29 am
Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:30 am to 0x15E
Scripps Health in San Diego a a week or so ago. I wonder if they payed out.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 9:45 am to Methuselah
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This thread is the perfect example of what could have been an interesting and informative discussion that was almost instantly derailed by multiple people with political axes to grind.
OT, we hardly knew ye.
Yep. RIP.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 10:08 am to Vlatket
That doesn’t make sense to me.
The hackers have every incentive to unlock the targets data. If they don’t, their next target is unlikely to pay up.
They’re like 18th century pirates, they want you to surrender, and they want to avoid conflict, if possible.
The hackers have every incentive to unlock the targets data. If they don’t, their next target is unlikely to pay up.
They’re like 18th century pirates, they want you to surrender, and they want to avoid conflict, if possible.
Posted on 5/16/21 at 10:13 am to SpotCheckBilly
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Got to figure out who they are and where they live first, and that will take time.
This group is Russian apparently?
I don’t see the Russians permitting us to do anything inside their borders. Although maybe they would intervene if the hackers did something dangerous, like the Colonial Hack.
The muted response from the White House makes me wonder if they are working with Russia on this.
But that could also be fall out from the administrations back down in Ukraine. Russia surges forces to the region, and the WH, faced with the prospect of war, told Kiev “we won’t send forces to protect you.”
Posted on 5/16/21 at 10:21 am to JohnnyKilroy
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This same group hit a company during trump’s term and paid Darkside 14m to get their servers back.
Gonna need a link and one not made in the last week on that one. there’s no way that the they asked for less money for a more impactful and more publicized hack. They could have asked for 50 million and ole joe was gonna tell colonial to pay up
This post was edited on 5/16/21 at 10:23 am
Posted on 5/16/21 at 8:00 pm to Lima Whiskey
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That doesn’t make sense to me.
The hackers have every incentive to unlock the targets data. If they don’t, their next target is unlikely to pay up.
They’re like 18th century pirates, they want you to surrender, and they want to avoid conflict, if possible.
Mostly bc he is completely wrong and talking out of his arse. The big well-known outfits like this almost always unlock after ransom is paid otherwise they would never get paid. Fairly simple concept
Posted on 5/17/21 at 3:59 pm to deNYEd
frick face, my company got hacked back in January here in Silicon Valley. It was part of the same wave targeting several Bay area companies in hopes of extorting money and leaving them in ruin. Had the FBI involved too. They specifically said that they've been following these guys and that you can pay them but you likely won't get the keys. The goal here isn't just to take your money, they want to close the business then laugh in your face. Most of these groups hail from enemy countries. Not some local computer nerd looking for a quick buck. So why don't you STFU about shite you don't know while you're collecting unemployment in your basement.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:25 pm to Vlatket
Calm down, son.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 4:25 pm to Vlatket
The Lazarus Heist podcast talks about some of this. In that case it was North Korea and their motives were as much about revenge as they were about money.
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