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re: Clancy trial verdict predictions

Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:31 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:31 am to
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Yes or no. The jury can come back with a plain "not guilty."


You know you've lost when you resort to one word answer leading questions
Posted by HouseMom
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:32 am to
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You know you've lost when you resort to one word answer leading questions


Hold up, the person I'm responding to said this is a trial about her mental state at the time of the murders. The truth is the jury can just say she's not guilty at all. I didn't make this up.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:35 am to
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The truth is the jury can just say she's not guilty at all.


They could also say frick you judge eat shite. Equal chance of them saying straight not guilty. This case has made some women literally retarded. The nuance has been explained to you by several, you choose not to hear it. Don't reproduce and don't vote please.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:36 am to
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Yes or no. The jury can come back with a plain "not guilty."


Sure all 12 people can disregard the facts and evidence, including the stipulations that she actually did it and find her plainly not guilty. If you want your "umm actually" moment, take it, but that isn't an option even worth discussing.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:36 am to
Dude you are being insane

It’s 100% an option for the jury to have a straight not guilty. The judge read it in the jury instructions

Some of y’all freak out over anything.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:37 am
Posted by Trauma14
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:37 am to
A mom on Tuesday in Illinois just killed her kid in her home and then attempted suicide. This shite is getting crazy.

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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:38 am to
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It’s 100% an option for the jury to have a straight not guilty.


Glad to see you have the reading comprehension of a retarded female.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:42 am to
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Glad to see you have the reading comprehension of a retarded female.
What comprehension is missing from the start of the conversation where this was posted

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The only not guilty option is not guilt by reason of insanity. To give you a quick 1L course crimes contain two parts, mens rea and actus reas. There is no doubt, and it was admitted to, that she did the action (actus reus) but what is up for debate is if she is legally culpable because of her mental state to be found guilty of the crime (mens rea). So no there is no option of "not guilty" because she didn't do it, that is a fantasy of crazy women online.


It’s just wrong. Just factually wrong. Downvote and get mad but it’s wrong as can be

There is 100% without a doubt an option for a straight not guilty
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:43 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:44 am to
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What comprehension is missing from the start of the conversation where this was posted



You really are insufferable twat.
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It’s just wrong. Just factually wrong. Downvote and get made but it’s wrong as can be
Again the nuance has been explained, but you're going to an argumentative fgt,. Knock yourself out.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:45 am to
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Sure all 12 people can disregard the facts and evidence, including the stipulations that she actually did it and find her plainly not guilty.

The phenomenon of "jury nullification"

I can't imagine any jury nullification would be on the table here after they heard the 911 call
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:45 am to
So the rumor is its the two younger chicks holding up the whole thing

Curious if it's the same two women who showed up wearing pink earlier


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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:48 am to
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So the rumor is its the two younger chicks holding up the whole thing


Wouldn't be surprising.

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Curious if it's the same two women who showed up wearing pink earlier


Definitely wouldn't be surprising
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:48 am to
It is technically an option but with both defense and prosecution basically agreeing that she did it and it wasn’t self defense, the options are NGBRI, manslaughter (which is fricked up), and murder.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:50 am
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:49 am to
That rumor is fabricated. Polymarket twitter kinda sucks.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:49 am to
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I can't imagine any jury nullification would be on the table here after they heard the 911 call


I read the transcript last night and legit teared up for a minute. I don't think I could physically take listening to the call.

ETA: Isn't it confirmed that there are at least 9 or 10 jurors who want to convict? A not guilty verdict is nonsensical to think of as an option at this point. A hung jury is possible. Not sure some of the loonies on social media following this know the difference though.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:53 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:50 am to
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It is technically an option but with both defense and prosecution basically agreeing that she did it and it was self defense, the options are NGBRI, manslaughter (which is fricked up), and murder.

If the two young pink wearers truly are part of the tik tok parade, I would absolutely not take off a straight not guilty from them

It’s a big if, but if they truly are part of that cult then that’s absolutely possible that’s what they are arguing
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:51 am
Posted by rt3
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:51 am to
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I read the transcript last night and legit teared up for a minute. I don't think I could physically take listening to the call.

I read the transcript too

I'd be seeing red if I heard it & the case was on my shoulders
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:51 am to
I wish the algorithm would present all the folks debunking all of the nonsense that they’re getting fed.

Crazy people are so against getting their thoughts and feelings challenged. Stubbornness is wild.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:53 am to
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If the two young pink wearers truly are part of the tik tok parade, I would absolutely not take off a straight not guilty from them

It’s a big if, but if they truly are part of that cult then that’s absolutely possible that’s what they are arguing

Then 1 way or another... this case is headed for mistrial

Whether it be due to a standard hung jury

Or due to deliberating jurors using sources the judge has told them to avoid (which could get the jurors in question in trouble with the court)
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 9:55 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 9:57 am to
If this ends in a mistrial and is retried, can the defense change their strategy and try to go for a straight not guilty? And if so, can their strategy where they admitted in open court she did it in this trial be used against them in that case?

These feel like stupid questions, but in a world where she wasn't immediately found guilty I've given up on common sense
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