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re: Church membership among US adults falls below 50% for the first time ever
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:41 am to squid_hunt
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:41 am to squid_hunt
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And I hope your only excuse for not going to church isn't "Those people don't obey the Sabbath, so I don't have to go to church."
I have many reasons.
1
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:42 am to keks tadpole
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What are the rules on funding religious activity with Federal money?
The United States Supreme Court has said that faith-based organizations may not use direct government support to support "inherently religious" activities. Basically, it means you cannot use any part of a direct Federal grant to fund religious worship, instruction, or proselytization. Instead, organizations may use government money only to support the non-religious social services that they provide.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:44 am to The Spleen
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also correlates with the massive explosion of the internet where people have had direct access to a wealth of information.
A lot of which is bogus.
But it gives people the excuse they need to be selfish, materialistic, and hedonistic.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 9:45 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 9:55 am to dawgfan24348
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Yeah let's ask medieval Europe and the middle east about how well they benefited. The damn Catholic Church nearly conquered all of Europe
Look up an author named Regine Pernoud. Read her book. It won't convince you or change your mind. But at least you'll have some solid historical research that shows you are mistaken.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:01 am to squid_hunt
quote:So what?
Churches are supposed to be non-profits and apolitical.
quote]What, exactly, are you taxing?[/quote] Should be property, income, purchases, i.e. all the same shite upon which I as an individual am forced to pay taxes.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:02 am to LSUFanHouston
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I have many reasons.
I'm not surprised. I'm betting top of the list isn't "disagrees with me on the sabbath".
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:06 am to squid_hunt
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I'm not surprised. I'm betting top of the list isn't "disagrees with me on the sabbath".
It's not.
I disagree with people like you because you act pretentious on one hand, yet miss all sorts of "rules" on the other.
It's no different than the people who go to 10 am mass and then speed out of the parking lot, cursing at the people who get in their way.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:15 am to EmperorGout
My suggested reasons:
1) Secularization of society/culture (see: Europe)
2) Secularization of churches themselves, whereby many are becoming mere vehicles for social advocacy or life help, leading people to see less utility/purpose in church membership/attendance.
3) Efforts by what I'd deem "real" churches to match the culture rather than provide an alternative to it (ie churches doing real work and doing this in good faith - just a misguided effort IMO.
1) Secularization of society/culture (see: Europe)
2) Secularization of churches themselves, whereby many are becoming mere vehicles for social advocacy or life help, leading people to see less utility/purpose in church membership/attendance.
3) Efforts by what I'd deem "real" churches to match the culture rather than provide an alternative to it (ie churches doing real work and doing this in good faith - just a misguided effort IMO.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:16 am to Prominentwon
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, I’ve found more faith in science than I do with the church. For the simple fact that the church is as flawed as I am.
Yeah it’s flawed cause their humans. You have faith...in a man-made construct?!
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:23 am to NoBoDawg
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You have faith...in a man-made construct?!
Religion is a man made construct.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 10:55 am to LSUFanHouston
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I disagree with people like you because you act pretentious on one hand, yet miss all sorts of "rules" on the other. It's no different than the people who go to 10 am mass and then speed out of the parking lot, cursing at the people who get in their way.
I acted pretentious by saying your attitude of staying home and it's fine is clearly not and backed it up? You didn't have to speak up. You chose to come in here and preach your message that the church is corrupt and there's no point in attending. I'm not allowed to rebut?
Perhaps instead of telling everyone else why they're a hypocrite, you could demonstrate the proper conduct of a Christian or at the least a good person?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:26 am to EmperorGout
1) without God there is no justice or definition of good besides our own opinions
2) people who dont stand for something will fall for anything. See the modern radical progressives.
3)Jesus is Lord and Savior and Easter Sunday is the highlight of the Christian calendar. I hope people recognize that this weekend.
2) people who dont stand for something will fall for anything. See the modern radical progressives.
3)Jesus is Lord and Savior and Easter Sunday is the highlight of the Christian calendar. I hope people recognize that this weekend.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:46 am to kywildcatfanone
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The democrats plan to destroy family values and morality is almost complete.
And here is part of your answer. Churches are basically political arms these days. They've alienated themselves.
Sure is a lot easier to blame the democrats though.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 11:59 am to EarlyCuyler3
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Churches are basically political arms these days
Not just political arms, but pure, unadulterated embrace of a man who is the absolute antithesis of Christian values.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:01 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Bump.
quote:
Explain how your tax dollars are going to churches
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:07 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Not just political arms, but pure, unadulterated embrace of a man who is the absolute antithesis of Christian values.
Yep. This is a new feature where people use large congregations of people to get their message out. Dems have never done that:
Just a whole pile of retarded leftists mad that conservatives use the same tactics they do.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:10 pm to bayoubengals88
No offense but you sound deranged
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:13 pm to Centinel
Churches don't typically receive any direct tax dollars.
But here's a list of religious organizations in Alabama that received PPP loans last year that will be forgiven. Whole lot of churches on that list.
SBA
I'm not saying they shouldn't have gotten them. But it is an example of our tax dollars going to churches.
But here's a list of religious organizations in Alabama that received PPP loans last year that will be forgiven. Whole lot of churches on that list.
SBA
I'm not saying they shouldn't have gotten them. But it is an example of our tax dollars going to churches.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:18 pm to LSU Coyote
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but ppl don't need faith to be moral and good.
If this were the case, there wouldn't be a need for any laws, correct?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 12:18 pm to The Spleen
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Churches don't typically receive any direct tax dollars.
You could have just stopped right there.
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