- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Church membership among US adults falls below 50% for the first time ever
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:13 am to Reservoir dawg
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:13 am to Reservoir dawg
quote:
Religion and faith will disappear in the western world, just like it did in Roman times and throughout history. It will return after a period of civil restoration and revival which could take 100 years. We are reliving history and going through the process yet again. The only thing that stops this is extinction.
Lot of wisdom here. Just like the Israelites. They found themselves in trouble, called out to God, he saved them, set them free, but they grumbled and wondered in the wilderness, cried out for help, God showed them mercy, then got complacent again and found themselves in trouble, called out again, and God showed them mercy.
We are entering the cry out for mercy stage. I hope people are prepared for it.
0
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:16 am to Purple Spoon
quote:
losing integrity
Organized religion has zero integrity left at this point. It is one of the most corrupt pieces of our society.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:18 am to GetCocky11
quote:
It is one of the most corrupt pieces of our society.
Other than business, politics, academia, the media, social groups.
I don't think religion is the problem.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:30 am to EmperorGout
Several reasons:
1) Many people don't "belong" to a church, they just go to random ones when they want to. Especially with more people not being based in a single location.
2) Just because people don't belong/attend church, doesn't mean that they aren't spiritual or religious.
3) Some people are less religious now
Most church services are either boring or overly hokey. You don't need to show up to Church every week to have a great relationship with the Lord.
1) Many people don't "belong" to a church, they just go to random ones when they want to. Especially with more people not being based in a single location.
2) Just because people don't belong/attend church, doesn't mean that they aren't spiritual or religious.
3) Some people are less religious now
Most church services are either boring or overly hokey. You don't need to show up to Church every week to have a great relationship with the Lord.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:31 am to EmperorGout
churches are bringing this on themselves. Covid has played a part but easy access to information is going to cause the real death of organized religion.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:32 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
You don't need to show up to Church every week to have a great relationship with the Lord.
If you define having a great relationship with the Lord as being obedient (If you love me, keep my commandments), yes you do.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:34 am to Jim Rockford
quote:
This was prophesied 2000 years ago.
How hard is it to predict a lowering of followers at some point in the future.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:42 am to squid_hunt
quote:
If you define having a great relationship with the Lord as being obedient (If you love me, keep my commandments), yes you do.
Jesus said to keep Holy the Sabbath.
He didn't say to go sit in a building for an hour and listen to a man talk. That, for Catholics, is church rule, not the words of the Lord.
Jesus also said to do no work on the Sabbath. How many of you, after attending Church on Sunday, go home and work around the house, cut grass, cook, or do other work?
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:45 am to squid_hunt
I think there are 3 big reasons for this, and they’ve all been touched on in this thread, and there is some overlap between them.
1. There is a lot of hypocrisy in organized religion and among its leaders and members. A whole lot of “do as I say, not as I do” mentality.
2. We are a transient society. Fewer and fewer people are sticking around their hometowns after graduating high school. And a lot of those people struggle to find a church home. Also, bigger cities have been seeing population growth, and church just isn’t the social center of life in bigger cities like it is in small towns.
3. More and more mixed marriages. Husband grew up Baptist, and wife grew up Catholic. There is a lot of struggle in those couples on where to go to church.
1. There is a lot of hypocrisy in organized religion and among its leaders and members. A whole lot of “do as I say, not as I do” mentality.
2. We are a transient society. Fewer and fewer people are sticking around their hometowns after graduating high school. And a lot of those people struggle to find a church home. Also, bigger cities have been seeing population growth, and church just isn’t the social center of life in bigger cities like it is in small towns.
3. More and more mixed marriages. Husband grew up Baptist, and wife grew up Catholic. There is a lot of struggle in those couples on where to go to church.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:48 am to Loup
The graph clearly shows the decline starting in 2000, so I seriously doubt Covid has played any meaningful part. It has affected church attendance, but not membership.
This post was edited on 3/30/21 at 7:50 am
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:49 am to squid_hunt
quote:
I don't think religion is the problem.
It certainly is a problem.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:51 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
He didn't say to go sit in a building for an hour and listen to a man talk.
Paul, Christ's hand-picked apostle, said not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
He also said the pastor, teachers, evangelists were a gift from God to the church.
The church is the body of Christ. By rejecting the church you are rejecting Christ. Maybe not to damnation, but I'd argue someone who refuses to go to church should seriously question whether they are saved.
The Sabbath question is an entirely different topic that I'm not going to get into now.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:52 am to GetCocky11
quote:
It certainly is a problem.
Symptom, not the illness in my opinion.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 7:52 am to supadave3
quote:
I found out just last week that as Catholics, my parents had to get an approval letter from the Priest in the Parish they just moved into to be a member of an out of Parish church that my nieces attend? Why?
I don’t know that I explained that very well. Why does a Catholic have to have a letter from on Priest to be a member of another Church?
Very weird. Might want to double check the details. You can attend Mass at any Catholic church in the world.
Most parishes are territorial and Catholics are considered members of the parish of residence, so maybe that was for them to be an official, registered member of a different parish.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:00 am to Ric Flair
Society has not quite matured enough to move beyond religion, deities, an afterlife, etc. But one day in the future even our descendants in the Deep South will look back on our time and consider us ignorant for all the Jesus nonsense.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:01 am to squid_hunt
quote:
Paul, Christ's hand-picked apostle, said not to forsake the assembling of yourselves together.
He didn't mean in a church building only. I know a number of people who haven't stepped foot in a church in years but gather for weekly bible study.
quote:
The church is the body of Christ. By rejecting the church you are rejecting Christ. Maybe not to damnation, but I'd argue someone who refuses to go to church should seriously question whether they are saved.
The Body of Christ is represented in many ways.
quote:
The Sabbath question is an entirely different topic that I'm not going to get into now.
I brought it up because you have made several statements implying that going to Church is required to have an obedient relationship with the Lord / to be saved. Like most religious people, I believe you are picking and choosing which "rules" you wish to follow. That's not how this works.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:03 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
ery weird. Might want to double check the details. You can attend Mass at any Catholic church in the world.
Most parishes are territorial and Catholics are considered members of the parish of residence, so maybe that was for them to be an official, registered member of a different parish.
Sounds like being a "member" vs just attening.
What benefits does one get from being a "member" that are over and above attendance? You get to serve on the parish council. Whoopie!
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:05 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:
I know a number of people who haven't stepped foot in a church in years but gather for weekly bible study.
Do you? I would also argue that is a church and it would be bizarre and contentious to avoid calling yourself one.
quote:
The Body of Christ is represented in many ways.
Weird take, but ok, sure. The body of Christ is specifically represented by the body of believers.
quote:
Like most religious people, I believe you are picking and choosing which "rules" you wish to follow. That's not how this works.
Again, I could go over the doctrine of the Sabbath, but it's going to railroad the thread. And I hope your only excuse for not going to church isn't "Those people don't obey the Sabbath, so I don't have to go to church."
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:06 am to LSUFanHouston
Granted this was the early 80’s, but when my grandparents moved back to Alabama from Illinois, my grandmother had to get a letter from her priest in Illinois before she could become a member of the Catholic Church in Alabama. She was also trying to get involved in the CCD program, so that may have had something to do with it.
Posted on 3/30/21 at 8:07 am to tiggerthetooth
The convenience of online mask may keep some away for good including old people who attend every week
Page 8 of 15
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News