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re: China Is No Longer the USA's Top Trading Partner

Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:14 pm to
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5340 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:14 pm to
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Sounds good, but I’d like to see a wage/cost of living comparison between Mexican and American workers to see if that “opportunity” has truly been diminished.


Doesn't matter. Most of the swarthy horde you see crossing our border these days is coming from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, not Mexico.

Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6805 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

Trade with China started declining after the Trump administration imposed restrictive tariffs on Chinese imports in 2018


That’s racist as frick

quote:
The Biden administration left those tariffs in place


I can get behind this, makes sense

Put these in reverse order or not, I believe you may have a very promising future in politics.
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
3895 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:27 pm to
Good. I worked at a major manufacturing plant that made supplies for restaurants. McDonald's was our biggest client. When we got an order for China, we couldn't ship a completed unit. Had to ship everything in pieces just so they could say they made it. Big pain in the arse. Screw china.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63618 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

The Biden administration left those tariffs in place.


Poor IB Freeman.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
60974 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Sounds good, but I’d like to see a wage/cost of living comparison between Mexican and American workers to see if that “opportunity” has truly been diminished.

Doesn't matter. Most of the swarthy horde you see crossing our border these days is coming from El Salvador, Honduras and Guatemala, not Mexico.


Ah, but maybe they could get their “opportunity” without having to travel so far north.
Posted by Palomitz
Miami
Member since Oct 2009
2699 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

and China responded with retaliatory action, such as COVID-19.


FIFY
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11313 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 2:54 pm to
Now add Taiwan
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14697 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

The more production in Mexico the less likely illegals will come here for “opportunity.”


Many "Illegals" are coming through Mexico but are not Mexican citizens.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 4:01 pm to
Good.

Mexico is our neighbor. If we must outsource, we should be helping Mexico develop their economy instead of China.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74846 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

We need to expand this policy into Central America and THEN the flow of illegal immigration from the South will subside.


having an actual border policy might help also…
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44413 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 4:24 pm to
I find it ridiculous that we don't have an American free trade zone that includes every country in North, South, and Central America. No tariffs. Easy work visas.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 4:25 pm to
I don’t care for Drumpt (his real name) but he isn’t always wrong either and he was correct on the China problem
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38706 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 4:39 pm to
Nafta2 is huge. Texas has a chance to surpass California due to the amount of trading that will happen. The next governor would be wise to try and get high speed rail from Nola to Houston going.
Posted by BigD43
Member since Jun 2016
1433 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 5:08 pm to
I love both Mexican and Chinese food.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102661 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 7:54 pm to
Some is due to Tariffs but also a lot of companies realized how fragile the supply chain is during Covid when you have to rely on the Chinese to supply many goods. Since then many companies have moved crucial production back here to the US or Mexico.

I’ve always said we should let Mexico manufacture our cheap plastic shite. It creates jobs there and incentivizes them not to immigrate here, plus logistics and shipping is cheaper with our neighbor than overseas.

Biggest hurdle is keeping the violent Cartels at bay and providing safe work environment and safe shipping lanes devoid of cartel influence
Posted by just1dawg
Virginia
Member since Dec 2011
1494 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

Or maybe China is shipping through Mexico.

Nah, Mexico doesn't have enough significant ports.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
11685 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

This is something people should continue to get behind. The more production in Mexico the less likely illegals will come here for “opportunity.”

And the most feasible-to-build Wall is funding one on Mexico's southern border, if Mexico were to finally join the rest of North America in basic standards.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173618 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

I’d rather import stuff from Mexico than China. However, how about making more of our stuff in the USA. Most of it’s done by robotics anyway.


It's not like we don't make things

But making more stuff means we need to build more factories

Which like it or not means we need more immigrant labor
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
2229 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:06 pm to
The Biden Administration likely has no idea those tariffs exist. They are too worried about pleasing their left wing overlords with their green agenda.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:09 pm to
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Or maybe China is shipping through Mexico.


It my understanding the redoing of NAFTA was to address these Mexican and Canadian pass throughs with the USMCA.
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