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re: "Children Are A Blessing" -Yet Parents Have No Time, Money, and Stop Excercising

Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:46 am to
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as humans we have the ability to assess and reassess life decisions, and basic biological drives, so choosing to have children is one of those choices that does not seem rational to me.


fine by me
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:47 am to
You make me laugh.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:47 am to
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after 3 or 4 generations any of your descendants would have as much in common with you genetically as they would with a stranger.

They would also be very likely have more in common with the superior gene donor from several generations ago than the inferior one.
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the "passing on your legacy" is pointless.

Not for the pool in the big picture it's not. Seriously, maybe you should consider why your focus is so much on yourself in the short run and not on what you can leave behind.

Although you may be implicitly correct here- it's possible that mildly entertaining semi-troll threads are probably just as valuable to humanity as anything else you could offer.

Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22346 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:47 am to
Obviously you have no kids. The moment the nurse put my daughter in my arms was the moment I stopped worrying about anything but making sure she (and soon after, my son) has everything I can possibly give her.

The level of love you feel for your child cannot be explained. That day was the day I stopped trying to gain for myself and started trying to gain for them.

Sure they are a pain in the arse a lot of the time. Sure they are a burden some of the time. Sure my life would be a lot different and more "me" focused without them. My life would also be a lot more lonely. My life would have a lot less direction without them.

Like I tell everyone: Having kids will be the worst and best thing to ever happen to you.

My little girl told me "love you daddy" for the first time the other day. One of the best days of my life.

Having kids isn't for everyone and I don't judge people who don't want kids, so don't come around here with this bullshite.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:48 am to
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I pity you, you joyless miserable frick


my life is pretty good actually - i travel, have attractive girls to date/sleep with, am very healthy. making good money, etc

plus, i get to sleep in whenever i please without the fear of some nagging 3 year old jumping on my face at 6am on sunday morning because the netflix is down and she cant watch dora the explorer
Posted by mostbesttigerfanever
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:49 am to


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rocket31


ultimately, you'll die a very unhappy person wondering why you left no legacy and achieved nothing meaningful in life
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:50 am to
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That really has nothing to do with biological instincts to reproduce..


I don't think you understand biology. That actually has quite a bit to do with it.

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Not really. You can tell yourself that all you want, doesn't mean its true. You have been conditioned to not want kids.


I really wish I knew myself as well as you appear to know me.
Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:51 am to
Wow. How did you get any of that from what he was saying???
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:51 am to
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why your focus is so much on yourself in the short run and not on what you can leave behind.


like a statue or something?
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:51 am to
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Wow. How did you get any of that from what he was saying???



I assume she just popped in late. Salmon has a good outlook on this stuff.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:52 am to
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That actually has quite a bit to do with it.


what? a person that can't reproduce doesn't have the instinct to reproduce?

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I really wish I knew myself as well as you appear to know me.


I know nothing about you. But I do know basic biology.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:53 am to
Thanks LL. That's what I'm aiming to be. Mr Wink and I have had many discussion about what we want our priorities to be and while our kids will of course be very very important to us, ourselves and our relationship come before them.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:53 am to
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One of the top three lies we tell ourselves in life. The other two: -God loves us -I'll be happy one day
hmmm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:53 am to
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Your step kids too?
step kids don't count.
Posted by USAF Hart
My House
Member since Jun 2011
10273 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:54 am to
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i actively avoid both of those things. sounds like torture


I read this as: I am a neckbeard living in mommy's basement with a level 80 Warlock
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:54 am to
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like a statue or something?

Well we can't all be Genghis Khan with a direct descendant on every block.

But if you're as successful and desirable as you suggest, seems like your decision to reproduce would make the average human in the next generation a tiny bit better than it would be if you didn't.
This post was edited on 7/22/15 at 9:56 am
Posted by mpar98
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Member since Jan 2006
8041 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:55 am to
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my life is pretty good actually - i travel, have attractive girls to date/sleep with, am very healthy. making good money, etc


may come as a surprise but the things you actually care about change as you get older...things you can buy with money mean less
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:55 am to
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what? a person that can't reproduce doesn't have the instinct to reproduce?


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I know nothing about you. But I do know basic biology.


Apparently, you don't.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
61742 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:57 am to
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my life is pretty good actually - i travel, have a attractive girl to date/sleep with, am very healthy. making good money, etc


I have those things, just add in the unconditional love of three other humans.
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plus, i get to sleep in whenever i please
ok, nevermind.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8188 posts
Posted on 7/22/15 at 9:57 am to
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FIFY

Most families could exist on one. Take smaller vacations, drive late model used cars instead of new, skip dining out a few times a week. But lots of ppl think they'd be doing a disservice to their kids to deprive them off that not realizing it's a bigger disservice to institutionalize them at 12 weeks old.


Have an upvote sir.
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