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re: Charlie Kirk Assassinated at Utah Valley University
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:00 pm to Shexter
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:00 pm to Shexter
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Kirk's security detail included former Secret Service agents and U.S. Marines.
How many? He had what looked like 5-6 guys around him.
If there is a "miss" in security it's with this team. No one should be blaming campus PD.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:00 pm to CatfishJohn
The scope of course cost more than the gun and I love the gun, but I really love my scope 
This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:01 pm to profdillweed
Ole reliable. Take care of it and it'll be my grandkids' one day. It was my father-in-laws before me.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:02 pm to JDPndahizzy
Thanks. I knew they were using it in their rifles up until a certain point.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:03 pm to OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:04 pm to Shexter
It could be Chris Kyle and James Reece and Chesty Puller, if you don't have the right access and the right stuff there isn't much you can do about this. I assume its a small outfit with limited resources at an open air event with a couple thousand participants. With a dude taking a chip shot off a rooftop like that, the only way they could have reasonably been expected to prevent it would be aerial surveillance or counter-snipers. I seriously doubt this guy had all that, and I doubt a college would allow it for him. Again, he isn't the president. He's a political activist. We used to have them at school all the time and I don't remember any serious security around.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:04 pm to Draco Malfoy
No way it was a transgender person, they don't have the nuts to do it.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:05 pm to LOL
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hey don't have the nuts to do it.
or maybe they do
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:05 pm to Proximo
It looked like the bullet went through his right side of his neck. That angle doesn’t look consistent with the shot.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:06 pm to upgrayedd
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It looked like the bullet went through his right side of his neck. That angle doesn’t look consistent with the shot.
Theyre saying he was wearing a metal chest plate that might have deflected it like that. Dont quote me on it...
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:06 pm to CatfishJohn
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If there is a "miss" in security it's with this team.
Seems crazy no one looked up when doing security sweeps, but it doesn't sound like there was a whole lot of coordination between Kirk's security and other LE.
I honestly think it's even possible people saw him and assumed he was with a LE agency serving as overwatch. If you recall back to Butler PA and the attempt on Trump, I remember there being an uproar about the lack of communication between agencies. People spotted the shooter getting in position and no one that mattered knew about it until after the shots were fired.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:07 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Theyre saying he was wearing a metal chest plate that might have deflected it like that.
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tiggerthetooth
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:07 pm to upgrayedd
I'm guessing it went straight into his artery, entering from the front.


Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:08 pm to profdillweed
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Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:09 pm to The Pirate King
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when doing security sweeps
Campus PD isn't doing a security "sweep" for this that includes tops of buildings and who knows how many people Charlie had, if they had the time and resources to check the tops of buildings, etc.
Relatively speaking, it wasn't a huge event for a college campus either. It's just a shitty person doing shitty things. No need to blame anyone but that person.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:09 pm to Proximo
Assuming the location of the shooter is correct in that photo, using Google Maps, the distance was around 120 yards.


Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:10 pm to Proximo
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I agree, it looks 100 yards at best
Tough to tell exactly where they believe he was on the roof because that particular building appears to have several "levels" of a roof, but from the highest level it appears to be about 140 yards to the tent Charlie was speaking under.

Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:10 pm to boxcarbarney
I think it was the top tier, near the label for UVU Women's Success Center (ironically). He was on gravel roof.
Posted on 9/11/25 at 3:11 pm to upgrayedd
The entrance was clearly visible slightly left of center, lower half of his neck. You can't see the exit, and you don't know if the bullet tracked straight, so there are no way to draw any conclusions from anything shown other than he was shot in the neck with a rifle.
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