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re: Chalk up a 'W' for prior infection immunity: Israeli study shows it 6X-13X more effective

Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
9828 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:21 pm to
So, you're solution is to infect everyone right now and whoever survives is good to go, right? That is your solution?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56689 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:24 pm to
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There are people ACTIVELY rooting against any form of natural immunity.



Doctors and nurses even
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56689 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:30 pm to
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The problem with that is that you have to get covid to have it



Cosmo, have you read anything to indicate whether or not vaccinated patients who become infected are getting the same natural immunity protections?

If so, the success of the vaccine, ironically, may be that it better allows for the survival of the COVID infection...only to have the patient truly rely on natural antibodies.

If not, then the vaccine could absolutely end up doing harm.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6562 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:11 pm to
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So, you're solution is to infect everyone right now and whoever survives is good to go, right? That is your solution?
That's a neat strawman your beating the shite out of, but it has nothing to do with this thread.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7496 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:19 pm to
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Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection


You could really add more tiers with obese versus non-obese
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:25 pm to
I mean, if you’re cool with a significant chance of hospitalization and death, knock yourself out.
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11434 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:36 pm to
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I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity. its that vax > unvaxxed.

both groups will get natural immunity if there's a breakthrough/infection. I dont think this article should be surprising. the vax is known to use a shorter lived arm of the immune system which doesnt really involve a strong production of the memory type cells that natural immunity does.


I guess I wasn't paying attention when my company, businesses I frequent, and my school ever mentioned that i could show my positive test results, negative reults, or antibodies tests to live my normal life.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 1:45 pm to
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Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection


I wonder if most of the people who tested positive for the China virus actually had it compared to those who just had the garden variety flu that goes around each year. Their tests don’t really decipher the two and the symptoms overlap.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7496 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:03 pm to
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I mean, if you’re cool with a significant chance of hospitalization and death, knock yourself out.


Huh?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34367 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:06 pm to
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Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers): Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected


This is in theory. In practice, it doesn’t seem to be working out well enough to be Tier 1.

Tier 2 - sure.

Tier 1 seems to be a person that has had Covid and is unvaccinated.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9049 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:07 pm to
I’m trying to wrap my head around why anyone would downvote this OP.

Are there actually people out there rooting for our immune systems not to work?
Posted by SCgamecock2988
Columbia, SC
Member since Oct 2015
14088 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:10 pm to
I had COVID in June 2020 and got the Pfizer vaccine in mid-March and early April 2021. Would like to think I'm pretty well off right now.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:12 pm to
feels good to be master race.

warned everyone about this btw
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:13 pm to
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you're solution is to infect everyone right now and whoever survives is good to go, right? 


that would be my choice personally
Posted by reddy tiger
Mandeville
Member since Aug 2012
1560 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:17 pm to
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quote:
I mean, if you’re cool with a significant chance of hospitalization and death, knock yourself out.


Huh?


If you get Covid, you’re about 100x more likely to die if you’re unvaccinated than if you’re vaccinated.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21068 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:19 pm to
No sure why anyone would doubt natural immunity or think a man-made vaccine would be better. The reality is many people need the help of the vaccine because their immune system is not a strong as others. Not sure why these are mutually exclusive situations to people.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:19 pm to
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 you still have a bunch of Karen nurses (who think they’re intelligent) bossing people around on here and on Facebook to take the jabs. They’re tired and out of sympathy, y’all!


lsunurse with her 75 IQ spreading propaganda everywhere
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41819 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:20 pm to
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No sure why anyone would doubt natural immunity or think a man-made vaccine would be better.
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we have 100s of pages of people arguing otherwise

think it was mostly fat people coping tho
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6562 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:20 pm to
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You could really add more tiers with obese versus non-obese
I actually did do this last year.

Thread here: LINK

COVID risk factors by OT Tier and BMI:
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
21068 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:25 pm to
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we have 100s of pages of people arguing otherwise


Hahaha, they should write less, its evolution baby.

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