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Chalk up a 'W' for prior infection immunity: Israeli study shows it 6X-13X more effective
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:53 am
Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Reason #323 to take the vaccine passport idea behind the barn and shoot it.
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Results: SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well.
When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease.
SARS-CoV-2-naive vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
quote:
Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
Reason #323 to take the vaccine passport idea behind the barn and shoot it.
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Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:54 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naive vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease.
SEASONAL
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:55 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I had Covid in January lets goooo
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:57 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
so I'm basically a god now
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:59 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Downvotes incoming from the vaxxed hoping for better seats in Death Valley this season.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:59 am to Salmon
quote:Indeed.
so I'm basically a god now
Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:59 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
Anecdotal: We had 12 of 19 employees get covid in the past few weeks. Two had been vaccinated. One had covid prior but was not vaccinated. All the rest were unvaccinated.
Of the seven of us left standing, three of us had already had covid. Two of us that had already had covid were also vaccinated. The other individual had already had covid twice. Three others were vaccinated but had not previously had covid.
Conclusion: We don't know shite about frick.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:00 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
From the website in bright red text:
Interesting if true (although it's not an argument against getting or requiring vaccines) along with the claim that a booster shot gave a boost to those with natural immunity. We'll have to wait for peer review to see if this goes the way of the fraudulent ivermectin "study."
quote:
Caution: Preprints are preliminary reports of work that have not been certified by peer review. They should not be relied on to guide clinical practice or health-related behavior and should not be reported in news media as established information.
Interesting if true (although it's not an argument against getting or requiring vaccines) along with the claim that a booster shot gave a boost to those with natural immunity. We'll have to wait for peer review to see if this goes the way of the fraudulent ivermectin "study."
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:02 am to BiggerBear
quote:
We'll have to wait for peer review
Peer review is worthless. It assumes peers are unbiased and competent in their fields, assumptions wholly unfounded in 2021.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 10:03 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:02 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity. its that vax > unvaxxed. 
both groups will get natural immunity if there's a breakthrough/infection. I dont think this article should be surprising. the vax is known to use a shorter lived arm of the immune system which doesnt really involve a strong production of the memory type cells that natural immunity does.
both groups will get natural immunity if there's a breakthrough/infection. I dont think this article should be surprising. the vax is known to use a shorter lived arm of the immune system which doesnt really involve a strong production of the memory type cells that natural immunity does.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:03 am to Salmon
quote:Same.
so I'm basically a god now
We are living forever.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:04 am to AMS
quote:People were absolutely saying that.
I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:05 am to BiggerBear
quote:It ABSOLUTELY is an argument against firing previously infected employees and hiring vaccinated employees.
(although it's not an argument against getting or requiring vaccines)
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:07 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
quote:
Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated without prior infection
Tier 4: Unvaccinated without prior infection
Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Unvaccinated without prior infection (Those who never trusted this shite).
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 4: Vaccinated without prior infection
FIFY
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:09 am to BottomlandBrew
We've had one employee get covid in the last 6 weeks. He was vaccinated.
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:14 am to TankBoys32
quote:
I had Covid in January lets goooo
I had it back in March so that means my blood has what the vaccinated craves.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 10:14 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:15 am to AMS
quote:
I dont think people were really saying vaccine > natural immunity. its that vax > unvaxxed.
They absolutely were. I had a discussion with a nurse the other day where they were saying that the vaccine zeroes in and focuses on the spike protein in order to recognize it and attack it. "Natural immunity doesn't do that". What??!!
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:16 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Yet you still have a bunch of Karen nurses (who think they’re intelligent) bossing people around on here and on Facebook to take the jabs. They’re tired and out of sympathy, y’all!
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 10:17 am
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:17 am to hometownhero89
quote:
Seems like there is a hierarchy (like OT tiers):
Tier 1: Unvaccinated without prior infection (Those who never trusted this shite).
Tier 2: Prior infected and unvaccinated
Tier 3: Vaccinated and prior infected
Tier 4: Vaccinated without prior infection
FIFY
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:18 am to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
I don’t follow Covid news but it seems like Israel is the only country doing Covid research.
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