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re: Central Pastor church charged, accused of disobeying governor’s order
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:55 pm to lsuhunt555
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:55 pm to lsuhunt555
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:55 pm to tigerinthebueche
In normal circumstances? Obviously. In a pandemic? Not at all.
The point is there’s clearly nothing unconstitutional about prohibiting assembly in times and places deemed unsafe to the assemblers or the public writ large. That’s all the pastor is prevented from doing, having an assembly of people in such a manner that it’s dangerous to the assemblers and the public writ large
The point is there’s clearly nothing unconstitutional about prohibiting assembly in times and places deemed unsafe to the assemblers or the public writ large. That’s all the pastor is prevented from doing, having an assembly of people in such a manner that it’s dangerous to the assemblers and the public writ large
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:56 pm to OweO
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There are times when there is an exception. This is one of those situations.
unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness say otherwise
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:56 pm to tigerinthebueche
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and I agree that its irresponsible. But at the same time, he isn't forcing anyone to attend the service. Nor do I think that it should be within the governors powers to prohibit the assembly.
if JBE sends out LEOs to break up crawfish boils this weekend, people will lose their minds. But its the same principal.
Look at it from a governor's viewpoint.
If he does absolutely nothing then people would flip their shite because "the government knows what is going on and they don't care. People are getting sick and the government is moving on like nothing is happening. They have blood on their hands".
He takes the measures he has taken in order to try to prevent it from spreading as much as possible and people will get made because "the government shouldn't be able to stop people from getting together".
How is he supposed to slow down the spread of this? You want him to "make suggestions"? "I suggest people stay home and not get into groups of 10 or more people, etc". If he said that then most people would continue to live life as usual and it would only spread around even faster. There will be people who don't listen. In this rare situation, I think its okay to take action because if they didn't then that only gives the green light for others to do the same.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:58 pm to tigerfan88
quote:but, hes going to make it be about the government telling them that they "cant talk about jesus in these last days", and that he "still believes in the power of the blood" or some typical shite.
That’s all the pastor is prevented from doing, having an assembly of people in such a manner that it’s dangerous to the assemblers and the public writ large
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:58 pm to lsuhunt555
Didn't he claim that if they shut him down he'd leave the area?
If that's true- any takers?
If that's true- any takers?
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:58 pm to lsuhunt555
The guy said he would cure anyone who got sick. Take him to the General or the Lake today and if he cures everyone there, set him free. If he can’t, go to phase 2 and throw him in the Mississippi River tied to an anvil. If he floats, he’s innocent.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:59 pm to TigerGman
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The hell he does. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater even though you have a first amendment right to free speech, anymore than he can ignore emergency pandemic orders...
The issue here is will you let the government just make up emergencies to eliminate your civil rights?
"shall not be infringed upon"......that is there for a reason. People sure like communist government actions when they are scared.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:59 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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unalienable right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness say otherwise
That's not in the Constitution.
It's in the Declaration of Independence. The Declaration of Independence isn't law.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 12:59 pm to SEClint
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Church is stupid anyways.
So edgy. So brave.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:00 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
So pedophiles have an unencroachable right to molest kids because to forbid it would encroach in their pursuit of happiness?
Also that’s not even a legal right.
Also that’s not even a legal right.
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:01 pm to tigerfan88
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So pedophiles have an unencroachable right to molest kids because it to forbid it would encroach in their pursuit of happiness?
Child being molested is totally equal to someone know knows the risks and decides to attend church
solid rebuttal, would read again
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:01 pm to tigerfan88
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Also that’s not even a legal right.
uh, excuse me?
better go back to 6th grade social studies and go over the constitution again
This post was edited on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:02 pm to tigerfan88
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All you “right to assemble no matter what” folks...I assume you were equally up in arms when BLM protestors get arrested for assembling on roadways right?
Bc please explain to me the difference.
The biggest difference is complaining about where people were assembling in public vs the right to assemble at all. Not to mention what BLM was doing was technically domestic terrorism.
I don't recall anyone saying they would be opposed to BLM assembly in public spaces that did not include terrorizing the public.
This church didn't force anything upon anyone who did not choose to attend the church.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to notsince98
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The issue here is will you let the government just make up emergencies to eliminate your civil rights?
There are numerous checks on the governments ability to declare emergency status. None of those have been initiated. Why? Because this is a legit reason for emergency status even though mouthbreathers think otherwise.
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"shall not be infringed upon"......that is there for a reason. People sure like communist government actions when they are scared.
Declaring a state of emergency is in no way akin to communism. You are using terms you don't understand to describe ideas you cannot comprehend.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
You have a right to go 130 mph on the interstate? I mean you know the risk and you decide to do it right?
You have a right to buy and smoke meth? I mean you know the risk and you decide to do it right?
Also it isn’t just about the risk to the attendees. It’s about the risks to society at large when the become spreaders. This is not a victimless offense the way you’re making it out to be
You have a right to buy and smoke meth? I mean you know the risk and you decide to do it right?
Also it isn’t just about the risk to the attendees. It’s about the risks to society at large when the become spreaders. This is not a victimless offense the way you’re making it out to be
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to tigerfan88
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All you “right to assemble no matter what” folks...I assume you were equally up in arms when BLM protestors get arrested for assembling on roadways right?
Bc please explain to me the difference.
the people who were being blocked in the roadways weren't willfully doing so
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to notsince98
quote:do you not believe what is going on in the world, or think it's just america fricking with its civilians cause it can?
The issue here is will you let the government just make up emergencies to eliminate your civil rights?
"shall not be infringed upon"......that is there for a reason. People sure like communist government actions when they are scared.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:03 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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should have offered free abortions so the courts would protect him.
His congregation pays for them just like everyone else. Don't kid yourself.
Posted on 3/31/20 at 1:04 pm to Geauxboy
quote:and so true.
So edgy. So brave.
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