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CDC Whistleblower admits to lying about vaccines

Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:18 am
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:18 am
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In August 2014, Dr. Thompson revealed that the data underlying CDC's principle vaccine safety studies demonstrated a causal link between vaccines and autism or autism symptoms, despite CDC's claims to the contrary. According to Thompson, based upon interpretation of the data, "There is biologic plausibility right now to say that thimerosal causes autism-like features." Dr. Thompson invoked federal whistleblower protection in August 2014.


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Dr. William Thompson is listed as author or co-author on the principal studies—Thompson, et al. 2007, Price, et al. 2010, Destefano, et al. 2004—most widely cited to "debunk" the link between autism and vaccines. Thompson said that his bosses, including the CDC's Immunization Safety Office Branch Chief Frank Destefano, specifically ordered him and three other CDC scientists to destroy data demonstrating vaccine induced autism in CDC's seminal 2004 study—Destefano, et al. 2004. The data unexpectedly showed a 250 percent increase in autism among young black males who received the vaccine on time—before their third birthday—compared to those who waited until after their third birthday. The data also showed a significant link between the vaccine and isolated autism (autism in normally developing children with no other medical problems), the kind suffered by Yates Hazlehurst, who is mentioned below. According to Thompson, Destefano called his four co-authors into a room and ordered them to dump the damning datasets into a giant garbage can. The published study omitted those data sets. That study, now cited in 91 subsequent papers on PubMed as proof of vaccine safety, is the principle foundation stone of the theology that vaccines don't cause autism.


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Posted by El Magnifico
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:19 am to
The mandatory vaccine crowd here will not like this
Posted by gatorhater08
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:20 am to
My thought is you should quote the damn article so I don't have to click a blind link. Common courtesy bro
Posted by Mavtiger
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:20 am to
That doesn't look like a biased website at all..
Posted by boddagetta
Moulton
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:27 am to
Not biting on your click bait.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:28 am to
Wow, if those allegations are true, lots of people need to go to jail and the lawsuits will make asbestos and tobacco settlements look like childs' play.

What I had heard (all second hand rumors), was that the money granted for that CDC study was stolen, used to bribe regulators to keep quiet. The key witness is now hiding out overseas in Europe with his share of the money (several million dollars).

I hope that's not true, but I would not be shocked if it is.
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:29 am to
The article says "causal association" which does not make any sense. There's a big difference between causation and association in medical literature (I'm a doctor).
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:30 am to
Jesus. I have a feeling my FB is about to blow up with this shite.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:34 am to
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Antivaccinationists, as is usual, are being very selective in what they believe out of this press release. They trumpet Thompson’s statement about the Destefano et al as “proof” that the “CDC lied.” Yet, they’re completely ignoring the biggest part of the statement: How massively enormous (or enormously massive) a slimeball Thompson just revealed Hooker to be—Wakefield, too. Thompson has just accused Hooker of having recorded him without informing him, a massive violation of the trust Hooker had nurtured between them. In fact, it’s quite possible that, if Thompson’s allegation is true, Hooker broke the law. While it’s true that Georgia, where the CDC is located, is a one party state (no, I’m not referring to the domination of its legislature by Republicans but to its law that only one person needs to consent to being recorded in a two-party recording), California, where Hooker works and presumably lives, is a two party consent state. In other words, Hooker could be in a world of hurt if Thompson were to pursue a prosecution and prevail.


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Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:35 am to
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the theology that vaccines don't cause autism.


That doesn't cause one to infer bias at all...
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:35 am to
ecowatch.com?

Ok.
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Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:43 am to
Was this a press release by the Law Firm filing the class action suit?
Posted by Upperdecker
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Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:48 am to
Here we go again
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30848 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:49 am to
I don't know what it proves or doesn't prove but in the least it's more evidence that more questions need to be asked and more research needs to be done.
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:52 am to
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The mandatory vaccine crowd here will not like this
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 11:59 am to


Nice try.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:12 pm to
over $300 billion has already been awarded to unsafe vaccine victims in the United States. Big pharma is protected from these lawsuits, though, so the tax payer is picking up the tab.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:16 pm to
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I don't know what it proves or doesn't prove but in the least it's more evidence that more questions need to be asked and more research needs to be done.


There is nothing in the column relating autism and vaccines. Literally...nothing. There is not a single reputable study that has shown a connection.

Think of this as throwing money to research why frogs give us warts.

This is doing nothing but distracting from actual research that could be done to help autism.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53015 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:19 pm to
Did y'all see the study where autism was linked to mothers using marijuana while pregnant?
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18005 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 12:20 pm to
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There is nothing in the column relating autism and vaccines. Literally...nothing. There is not a single reputable study that has shown a connection.

Think of this as throwing money to research why frogs give us warts.

This is doing nothing but distracting from actual research that could be done to help autism.



You should read up on this more. The data showing enough causation that it could not be completely ignored were destroyed by the orders of higher ups at the CDC. This guy blew the whistle on it.
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