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re: CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to Oilfieldbiology
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Anyone in the hospital?
Hospitalizations are very rare in both “breakthrough” (vaccine) and re-infection (natural immunity). The Israel Study did say that the breakthrough people were more symptomatic FWIW.
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:25 am to LSUBoo
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:33 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
If you weren’t such a brain dead moron you would see how harmful this line of thinking is. First it’s the unvaxxed that don’t get a hospital bed… the the unboostered…. Then the trump supporters… etc.
You are a useful idiot that thinks the authoritarian policies stop right before they reach you, and people like you are always wrong. History proves it.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:38 am to WaWaWeeWa
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You are a useful idiot that thinks the authoritarian policies stop right before they reach you, and people like you are always wrong. History proves it.
Ding. Ding. Ding.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:39 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Hospitals beds are packed here in Ohio. Especially rural hospitals. Elective surgeries are going to be cancelled soon in the larger cities.
Most new Covid patients are having to spend days in the ER until beds are available.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:42 am to STEVED00
Excellent post! From the very beginning - when Fauci lied to us, saying masks would do no good (he was trying to protect the supply chain) - the government has taken the view that we must be manipulated. Contrast that to Sweden, which trusted its citizens, never locked down, and for which the pandemic is over.
For folks who never caught the disease, the vaccination is a no-brainer. All of the worries about side effects are foolish, because the chances of side effects from catching Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks from the vaccine, which are so low they are effectively zero.
Masks are a stupid, ineffective, virtue-signalling nuisance. Less than 10% of folks in Sweden wear masks while on public transportation.
These are the facts about Covid. There will be folks on both the left and right who disagree with some of them. Those folks are either pitifully stupid or they are blinded by misplaced ideology.
For folks who never caught the disease, the vaccination is a no-brainer. All of the worries about side effects are foolish, because the chances of side effects from catching Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks from the vaccine, which are so low they are effectively zero.
Masks are a stupid, ineffective, virtue-signalling nuisance. Less than 10% of folks in Sweden wear masks while on public transportation.
These are the facts about Covid. There will be folks on both the left and right who disagree with some of them. Those folks are either pitifully stupid or they are blinded by misplaced ideology.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:43 am to Damone
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it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
Why, exactly?
I know someone who has had COVID 3 times. I know people who have been vaccinated and still tested positive for COVID. And I know others who are not vaccinated and have never had a positive COVID test.
All that tells me is it's all luck of the draw and that "immunity" differs across all people. So pushing anything on anyone is pointless.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:45 am to YNWA
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Hospitals beds are packed here in Ohio. Especially rural hospitals. Elective surgeries are going to be cancelled soon in the larger cities.
Most new Covid patients are having to spend days in the ER until beds are available.
Provide official links showing this is the case. Also how much of it is due to staffing shortages? That's the bigger issue.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:46 am to Damone
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it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
What's the problem?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:47 am to Penrod
Thanks. The only issue I have with your post is the below portion.
For young the impacts of actually having Covid are essentially zero as well. Once you get in your 30s/40s then the risks start to increase especially if your general health isn’t all that great.
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For folks who never caught the disease, the vaccination is a no-brainer. All of the worries about side effects are foolish, because the chances of side effects from catching Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks from the vaccine, which are so low they are effectively zero.
For young the impacts of actually having Covid are essentially zero as well. Once you get in your 30s/40s then the risks start to increase especially if your general health isn’t all that great.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:47 am to Penrod
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chances of side effects from catching Covid while unvaccinated far outweigh the risks from the vaccine, which are so low they are effectively zero.
The side effects are different for a lot of people based on their current health. And you dont have any idea what the side effects are of the "vaccine" bc it's new and experimental.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:48 am to STEVED00
Twitter - Australia sees 78% of hospitalizations coming from Fully jabbed
Australia is coming out of their flu season and have been averaging 78% of their hospitalization are fully vaccinated.
We're in for a long winter here.
Australia is coming out of their flu season and have been averaging 78% of their hospitalization are fully vaccinated.
We're in for a long winter here.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:51 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it.
I didn’t
I ended up with Covid, it was no more than a sinus infection / chest cold that I was over in a week
My immune system works & I now have antibodies
Why should I have to get a vaccine?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:53 am to TaderSalad
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Australia is coming out of their flu season and have been averaging 78% of their hospitalization are fully vaccinated.
That number really doesn’t mean anything w/o more context. If it is 78 out of 100 in a 1000 capacity hospital where the population is 80% vaccinated then that stat is a huge nothing burger.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:58 am to TaderSalad
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We're in for a long winter here.
Doubtful.
Delta has already burned through most of the highly unvaccinated areas.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:58 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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And you dont have any idea what the side effects are of the "vaccine" bc it's new and experimental.
This type of vaccine has been in development for years, it's not as new and experimental as people seem to think.
That said, your body, your choice, I don't care one bit if people choose not to take it.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:00 am to STEVED00
As I've said previously, the vaccine mandates are 100% about the government "saving" you. Naturally acquired immunity does not require "saving", so it is dismissed by the government.
We won't even get into the possibility that the government is the bad guy that started the entire pandemic.
We won't even get into the possibility that the government is the bad guy that started the entire pandemic.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:01 am to LSUBoo
Is this the first one of this type that is being distributed?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:01 am to LSUBoo
The point is we are causing an argument when an argument isn’t necessary. They don’t want to admit it bc they fear people will catch it on purpose. Honestly if you are in poor health and your catch Covid on purpose, then you deserve the outcome. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:03 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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And you dont have any idea what the side effects are of the "vaccine" bc it's new and experimental.
12+ months and 100 million+ data points
I think we have a pretty good idea by now
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