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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
So the CDC is STILL spouting the talking point that the vaccine is 2x more effective than natural immunity based on their very small scale Kentucky study. The actual study clearly says that NO CAUSATION should be taken from the study bc of the small scale and numerous limitations which include their admission that 1. at the time vaccinated people were probably less likely to even be tested with basically and 2. there were issues matching names of those infected with the vaccine rosters from the state’s records. Also the study was conducted PRIOR to Delta variant becoming prolific in the US.
Israel produces an ENORMOUS SCALE study on Pfizer vaccine efficacy vs Natural Immunity vs Pfizer + NI and the results were clearly that both provided great protection but NI provides even better protection against the current at the time prominent variant (Delta). Israel is a single healthcare system so they have ALL the data unlike the US who has to assemble the data from multiple healthcare providers.
Just the other day, the US Surgeon General was touting the 2x number in an interview. You want to know why people mistrust the media and the medical community talking heads? It is because stuff like this. It is obvious they think we are stupid and that we NEED to be told what to do instead of thinking for ourselves. Honestly many Americans want to be told what to do and NOT think for themselves so we as a group are also part to blame.
In closing, Israel Study proved both Pfizer and NI worked great against Delta but NI was stronger. Let’s just acknowledge that fact and leave the NI folks alone (there are tests for antibodies and TCells to confirm).
Here are the links to the studies if you want to see for yourselves.
Israel Study
CDC Kentucky Study
Israel produces an ENORMOUS SCALE study on Pfizer vaccine efficacy vs Natural Immunity vs Pfizer + NI and the results were clearly that both provided great protection but NI provides even better protection against the current at the time prominent variant (Delta). Israel is a single healthcare system so they have ALL the data unlike the US who has to assemble the data from multiple healthcare providers.
Just the other day, the US Surgeon General was touting the 2x number in an interview. You want to know why people mistrust the media and the medical community talking heads? It is because stuff like this. It is obvious they think we are stupid and that we NEED to be told what to do instead of thinking for ourselves. Honestly many Americans want to be told what to do and NOT think for themselves so we as a group are also part to blame.
In closing, Israel Study proved both Pfizer and NI worked great against Delta but NI was stronger. Let’s just acknowledge that fact and leave the NI folks alone (there are tests for antibodies and TCells to confirm).
Here are the links to the studies if you want to see for yourselves.
Israel Study
CDC Kentucky Study
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:07 am to STEVED00
Can’t devalue that jab. Too much money is on the line.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:08 am to STEVED00
If you still listen to the CDC, you’re a brainwashed moron
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:10 am to STEVED00
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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)
Of course they do, because if they didn't, everyone that doesn't want the shot would dig their heels in even more.
"Follow the Science"
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:11 am to STEVED00
Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:13 am to STEVED00
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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity
I've got both.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:15 am to STEVED00
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2x More Effective
but..... effective at what? they changed the definition of vaccine to fit their agenda.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:16 am to Cshaw91
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If you still listen to the CDC, you’re a brainwashed moron
Mandates are tied to “CDC”. If this was just about people following the CDC than it would be an issue. Problem is organizations follow CDC and then people need to adhere to policies drafted by their organizations.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:16 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Ok as long as you don’t cry if you catch Covid after being fully vaccinated.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 7:21 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to STEVED00
They know where their bread is buttered.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to AUCE05
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
This seems fair. Of course when the Vaxxed start crashing and burning no bed for you.
After all, it was your choice to take the shot.
Compromise. I like it.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:19 am to MorbidTheClown
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but..... effective at what? they changed the definition of vaccine to fit their agenda.
This is absolutely true. The vaccine didn't stop me from getting COVID. It didn't stop anyone in my family/friend circle from getting COVID. We were 100% in breakthrough infections.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:19 am to Cshaw91
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If you still listen to the CDC about COVID, you’re a brainwashed moron
I feel they still have some value, but it’s definitely waning.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:21 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Anyone in the hospital?
Nope.
ETA: And that goes for vaccinated and unvaccinated.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 7:23 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to STEVED00
I don’t really care about the natural immunity folks, it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
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