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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)

Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:04 am
So the CDC is STILL spouting the talking point that the vaccine is 2x more effective than natural immunity based on their very small scale Kentucky study. The actual study clearly says that NO CAUSATION should be taken from the study bc of the small scale and numerous limitations which include their admission that 1. at the time vaccinated people were probably less likely to even be tested with basically and 2. there were issues matching names of those infected with the vaccine rosters from the state’s records. Also the study was conducted PRIOR to Delta variant becoming prolific in the US.

Israel produces an ENORMOUS SCALE study on Pfizer vaccine efficacy vs Natural Immunity vs Pfizer + NI and the results were clearly that both provided great protection but NI provides even better protection against the current at the time prominent variant (Delta). Israel is a single healthcare system so they have ALL the data unlike the US who has to assemble the data from multiple healthcare providers.

Just the other day, the US Surgeon General was touting the 2x number in an interview. You want to know why people mistrust the media and the medical community talking heads? It is because stuff like this. It is obvious they think we are stupid and that we NEED to be told what to do instead of thinking for ourselves. Honestly many Americans want to be told what to do and NOT think for themselves so we as a group are also part to blame.

In closing, Israel Study proved both Pfizer and NI worked great against Delta but NI was stronger. Let’s just acknowledge that fact and leave the NI folks alone (there are tests for antibodies and TCells to confirm).

Here are the links to the studies if you want to see for yourselves.

Israel Study

CDC Kentucky Study

Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30857 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:07 am to
Can’t devalue that jab. Too much money is on the line.
Posted by Cshaw91
Member since Mar 2019
2323 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:08 am to
If you still listen to the CDC, you’re a brainwashed moron
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12719 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:10 am to
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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)

Of course they do, because if they didn't, everyone that doesn't want the shot would dig their heels in even more.

"Follow the Science"
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42572 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:11 am to
Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101927 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:13 am to
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CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity


I've got both.


Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
66188 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:15 am to
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2x More Effective


but..... effective at what? they changed the definition of vaccine to fit their agenda.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:16 am to
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If you still listen to the CDC, you’re a brainwashed moron



Mandates are tied to “CDC”. If this was just about people following the CDC than it would be an issue. Problem is organizations follow CDC and then people need to adhere to policies drafted by their organizations.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22385 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:16 am to
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.


Ok as long as you don’t cry if you catch Covid after being fully vaccinated.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 7:21 am
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21283 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:17 am to
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I've got both.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:17 am to
Gotta sell them shots baw
Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25524 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to
They know where their bread is buttered.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
2773 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:18 am to
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Then don't get it. Also, don't cry when a hospital bed goes to someone else.


This seems fair. Of course when the Vaxxed start crashing and burning no bed for you.

After all, it was your choice to take the shot.

Compromise. I like it.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101927 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:19 am to
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but..... effective at what? they changed the definition of vaccine to fit their agenda.


This is absolutely true. The vaccine didn't stop me from getting COVID. It didn't stop anyone in my family/friend circle from getting COVID. We were 100% in breakthrough infections.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:19 am to
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If you still listen to the CDC about COVID, you’re a brainwashed moron


I feel they still have some value, but it’s definitely waning.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:20 am to
Anyone in the hospital?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101927 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:21 am to
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Anyone in the hospital?


Nope.


ETA: And that goes for vaccinated and unvaccinated.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 7:23 am
Posted by Le Tenia
Member since Feb 2015
4511 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to
Who is that?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32936 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 7:24 am to
I don’t really care about the natural immunity folks, it’s the vehement anti-vaxers who are the problem.
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