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re: CDC Still Claim Vaccine is 2x More Effective Than Natural Immunity (Israel Report Ignored)

Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:05 am to
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:05 am to
How is money the obsession with the jab if the shot is free to the public?
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:05 am to
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12+ months and 100 million+ data points



It hasn't been in use for 12 months and even if it had you still ignore any possible long-term effects developing over time. There are other drugs where the side effects weren't confirmed until years, and sometimes decades later.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:10 am
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:06 am to
I don’t agree with this

12+ months is not nearly long enough in reference to giving it to kids
Just my opinion but I would want years of data before I gave it to child

Guess it’s a good thing I don’t have kids so I don’t have to make that decision
Posted by stout
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:06 am to
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How is money the obsession with the jab if the shot is free to the public?



You are paying for it because the Government is subsidizing it.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:06 am to
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Australia is coming out of their flu season and have been averaging 78% of their hospitalization are fully vaccinated.

We're in for a long winter here.
Don't really agree.

Many other variants have appeared this year and all have been smothered by Delta.

My expectation is that Delta is the "final boss" of COVID where it has reached max transmissibility. The naturally acquired immunity gained from the first three waves will be enough to keep large outbreaks from happening. This is how novel viruses have become endemic viruses throughout human history. The are over 200 respiratory viruses in endemic circulation, all were novel at some point, and likely killed people, but only cause colds now.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:07 am
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:08 am to
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It hasn't been in use for 12 months


We have 12+ months of data.

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and even it has you still ignore any possible long-term effects developing over time. There are other drugs where the side effects weren't confirmed until years, and sometimes decades later.


Recent? If you want to bring up vaccines from the 1950s, go ahead, but I tend to believe we have better understanding of medicine these days.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:10 am to


Twitter


I saw this movie once..
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:13 am to
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My expectation is that Delta is the "final boss" of COVID where it has reached max transmissibility. The naturally acquired immunity gained from the first three waves will be enough to keep large outbreaks from happening. This is how novel viruses have become endemic viruses throughout human history. The are over 200 respiratory viruses in endemic circulation, all were novel at some point, and likely killed people, but only cause colds now.


lots of talk/modeling of COVID becoming endemic in spring 2022

I like the optimistic talk for once

this has naturally been ignored by the doom and gloom OT
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:16 am to
Do you not trust the CDC on other diseases, viruses etc? Or is it just on this subject?
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:18 am to
Deflect for that check
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:18 am to
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I've got both.


Maybe, maybe not!

Alot of reports coming out that the vaccine kills your T cell immunity because it out competes it!

Who knows at this point because it's hard to believe anything you see online any longer..
Posted by Cajunhawk81
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:19 am to
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How is money the obsession with the jab if the shot is free to the public?


I guess your daddy never told you "there is no such thing as a free lunch."
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:22 am to
Muh, government agency pushing government agenda..


Seems legit
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:24 am to
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Israel Report Ignored
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:26 am to
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:31 am to



Perfect. Of course, you'll never get an answer about this.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:31 am to
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but I tend to believe we have better understanding of medicine these days.


You certainly seem to believe everything Fauci tells you to believe.
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
466 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:47 am to
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12+ months and 100 million+ data points


Well, the FDA is clearly concerned with the heart inflammation issue. The Pfizer approval letter requires 7 follow up trials, most won't be completed until 2024 or later.
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We have determined that an analysis of spontaneous postmarketing adverse events reported under section 505(k)(1) of the FDCA will not be sufficient to assess known serious risks of myocarditis and pericarditis and identify an unexpected serious risk of subclinical myocarditis.



FDA LINK
quote above is on page six

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:48 am to
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You certainly seem to believe everything Fauci tells you to believe.



I've literally never taken off my COVID goggles
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:50 am to
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Well, the FDA is clearly concerned with the heart inflammation issue.


Cool. They are required to be. I'm not.

The incidence rate is still extremely low. And 98% of myocarditis cases are so mild they require no medical treatment.

Myocarditis was originally used to fear monger with COVID.

Now its being used to fear monger with the vaccines.

Congrats.
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