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re: Carjackings in New Orleans are the worst in a decade.

Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:23 am to
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I just looked him up on the OPP inmate search and he was charged with ATT FIRST DEGREE ROBBERY.

Is that the same as attempted carjacking? Or it was because he didnt actually have a gun, he just pretended like he did


Carjacking doesn't require a weapon, simply the use of force or intimidation. First degree robbery is more general in what is being taken, but requires pretending to have a weapon. Counterintuitively, it's actually a more serious offense than carjacking, which might be why the cop hit him with it.

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§64.1. First degree robbery

A. First degree robbery is the taking of anything of value belonging to another from the person of another, or that is in the immediate control of another, by use of force or intimidation, when the offender leads the victim to reasonably believe he is armed with a dangerous weapon.

B. Whoever commits the crime of first degree robbery shall be imprisoned at hard labor for not less than three years and for not more than forty years, without benefit of parole, probation or suspension of imposition or execution of sentence.

Added by Acts 1983, No. 533, §1.


LINK

ETA: Attempt is simply a modifier that can be used for nearly all charges. As a general rule, the sentence for an attempt is half of the sentence for the full charge. So an Attempt 1st Deg Robbery, the max would be 20 instead of 40, etc.
This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:26 am
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9244 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:24 am to
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Joshjrn

Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:26 am to
I'm surprised there aren't more in the Black Pearl/Carrolton area.

Closest one to me was Jefferson/Prytania and that really isn't all that close
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
26436 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:27 am to
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Victim shaming

The problem is the hoodlums, not the victim


Not blaming the victim but Jesus Christ, don't give them the opportunity...

This post was edited on 6/23/21 at 9:28 am
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:28 am to
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Bet I know where I got one car they won't be jacking



None where I live
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
17741 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:31 am to
One city i hate going to...
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32776 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:33 am to
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Le Bon Temps


Great bar
Posted by DLauw
SWLA
Member since Sep 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:34 am to
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Where do they go after stealing a car? Do they drive the vehicle with fake tags or take it to a chop shop?


Funny story related/unrelated:

Years ago, we were repairing a theft recovery vehicle from Houston, F350 Lariat (IIRC). The thieves had stripped the wheels and interior.

The insurance company located used replacement seats at Big Leroy’s Auto Salvage in Houston. There was always a running joke among body shops that you could call Big Leroy and get any part you wanted in any color you wanted even if he didn’t have it in stock, “just give him a couple of days.”

We ordered the parts from him, repaired it and called the customer to pick up. While the customer is inspecting it, he finds a receipt with his name on it tucked in the back seat.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:34 am to
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New Orleans is in a very bad place right now....just like a lot of cities in the US. Incompetent leadership, radical progressive DA's, activist judges, and a clearly divisive agenda in the media is taking its toll.

Someone should start dumping birth control pill into the water supply.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26982 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:35 am to
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Smeg


Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:41 am to
What will actually happen -

Money will leave NOLA

People will stop going to cops and instead just kill robbers and dump the bodies
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16537 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:47 am to
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Money will leave NOLA


It's funny but Upper Middle and Upper class families would rather stay in NOLA despite all the BS. I don't understand it. I guess ya just have to be from uptown to feel that way .

I'm not from N.O. or uptown but have family friends that are and a wife that is and trying to get out of N.O. has sparked some contentious conversations.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:51 am to
When I say “money”, I don’t just mean the upper class living there.

I mean tourism money (regional, national, international) and any businesses left which don’t absolutely depend on location for their work.


Shipping, shipbuilding, etc isn’t going anywhere.

Other businesses? Less so.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10219 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 9:55 am to
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One has a greater chance of catching Covid.


That’s a pretty high chance. And I bet you were all in favor of the lockdowns.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:01 am to
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t's funny but Upper Middle and Upper class families would rather stay in NOLA despite all the BS.


They can afford private school tuition or whatever tutoring or bribing that's necessary to get their kids into Franklin. And most of the Garden district is under one of several special taxing districts to fund additional neighborhood police patrols. This might be the only place in Louisiana where some of the residents qualify as "old money" with generational wealth. They live in neighborhoods where their family has been for a hundred years. They can give a shite about the rest of the city so long as their enclave remains insulated.

The middle class families with children have already been squeezed out of places like New Orleans. Even when those families become wealthy over time, they almost never end up in these segregated urban wealthy communities. Their politics and values are completely different. Those types are staying in Lakeview (one of the few areas of its type in NOLA), Metarie or the north shore. New money rarely coexists with old money. Especially in hyper cliquish places like New Orleans that isn't really generating a lot of "new money".

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I don't understand it. I guess ya just have to be from uptown to feel that way


They aren't really making a huge sacrifice by living there. They've insulated themselves from the rest of New Orleans pretty well.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94846 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:04 am to
That works until the criminals figure out how to hit the rich areas with minimal chance of police.

Hell, if the rest of the city goes to shite like it is doing, they may do it even if risky because that is where the money is.
Posted by burgeman
Member since Jun 2008
10360 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:06 am to
Troop N dissolved January 2021

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Louisiana State Police Troop N is scheduled to be dissolved before 2021, and the 32 troopers that it brought to patrol the French Quarter, will go elsewhere, City Hall analyst Eric Smith said.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16855 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:06 am to
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That works until the criminals figure out how to hit the rich areas with minimal chance of police.

Hell, if the rest of the city goes to shite like it is doing, they may do it even if risky because that is where the money is.



If it gets bad enough...yeah. Even the old money will start moving out.

That happened in Detroit and Baltimore.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:12 am to
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Troop N dissolved January 2021

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Louisiana State Police Troop N is scheduled to be dissolved before 2021, and the 32 troopers that it brought to patrol the French Quarter, will go elsewhere, City Hall analyst Eric Smith said.


Fake news...they just reinstated the tax to keep LSP in the French Quarter


NOPD and State Police partnership to add patrols to New Orleans
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112553 posts
Posted on 6/23/21 at 10:33 am to
Perhaps you can enter them into a restorative justice program or some other nonsense you believe in
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