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re: Career change advice
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:55 pm to Gorilla Ball
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:55 pm to Gorilla Ball
My pay has scaled +/- $60k a few times.
It’s funny how it really just doesn’t seem like that much once Gov gets theirs.
You only have one life and zero guarantee you will make retirement.
Change can be good for the soul.
It’s funny how it really just doesn’t seem like that much once Gov gets theirs.
You only have one life and zero guarantee you will make retirement.
Change can be good for the soul.
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:56 pm to Jobin
My ex GF worked in IT for a federal agency. Five years ago she was making about 110K. She was on call one weekend a month, and the two years we were together I remember one time she was called on her weekend on call for an emergency.
To be honest, I'm still not sure what she did in her job. She definitely was not overworked or had a stressful job.
She has an undergraduate and masters from UC Berkeley and went to work for FedGov when she graduated. She realized with her education she could have made more in private industry, but she went to FedGov route and was just riding the wave until retirement. She thought like a bureaucrat and had no idea about life in the dog eat dog world of private industry.
I'm telling you this to say you might not adjust easily to a FedGov job after being in private industry.
To be honest, I'm still not sure what she did in her job. She definitely was not overworked or had a stressful job.
She has an undergraduate and masters from UC Berkeley and went to work for FedGov when she graduated. She realized with her education she could have made more in private industry, but she went to FedGov route and was just riding the wave until retirement. She thought like a bureaucrat and had no idea about life in the dog eat dog world of private industry.
I'm telling you this to say you might not adjust easily to a FedGov job after being in private industry.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:58 pm to RealDawg
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My pay has scaled +/- $60k a few times.
It’s funny how it really just doesn’t seem like that much once Gov gets theirs.
This is total horse shite
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:04 pm to Jobin
What’s your daily workload now? Didn’t really explain the present demands enough.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:05 pm to Jobin
Considering you go golf 1-2 times a week and happy hours coupled with work from home, you technically have plenty of time off. I wouldn’t trade that out for that big of a pay cut. Why not list training a backup as your goal for this year. It will show the boss you have motivation and you are thinking ahead. Also, you will get the added benefit of really assessing the things you may do during the day and/or after hours. Who knows once you show the boss all the things you handle a pay raise may be in store.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:07 pm to Havoc
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What’s your daily workload now?
Depends on the day. Some days I’m in clients offices from 8-4. Some days I have to just answer calls and e-mails. Some days are spent on field locations. But as I said, I haven’t had a day without work since early June.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:11 pm to Jobin
Move back to Louisiana and get a job in petrochemical plant.
I know I know you, but cannot place screen name with actual name right now.
I know I know you, but cannot place screen name with actual name right now.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 8:35 pm to Jobin
This...
Will be the opposite of
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DoD civilian working for the Navy
Will be the opposite of
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have complete autonomy in my day-to-day life
quote:Look at it this way. If you can live on $85k/yr, but make $130k/yr, you should be able to sock $30-40k/yr on the higher salary. Do that for three or five years and you can easily survive years of unemployment. You make enough to provide your own "stability" if you're disciplined about saving.
stability over the money is worth it?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:56 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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quote: My pay has scaled +/- $60k a few times. It’s funny how it really just doesn’t seem like that much once Gov gets theirs. This is total horse shite
$140k salary net pay so $96,249 per year, or $8,021 per month..marginal tax rate 37.6%.
$80k salary net pay so $59,038 per year, $4,919 per month take home..marginal tax rate 35.8%.
Why would this be horse shite? A little different house in a different area can be $1,200 more a month. A little nicer car $300 more a month. Country club versus no country club. International vacations versus domestic vacations. Kids versus no kids. Wife versus no wife. End zone versus club seats.
$3k a month really isn’t that much with lifestyle changes.
Have done both so frick off. Happiness matters way more. “Things” aren’t that important as long as you can live comfortable and enjoy yourself and your job.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:03 am to Jobin
If you take the Navy job you will be moving to an area with a very high cost of living. Housing costs are higher than what you are used to in LA.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:55 am to RealDawg
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$3k a month really isn’t that much with lifestyle changes
Dumbass
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$140k salary net pay so $96,249 per year, or $8,021 per month..marginal tax rate 37.6%.
$80k salary net pay so $59,038 per year, $4,919 per month take home..marginal tax rate 35.8%.
And that's before I even address this retard shite.
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 8:01 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:59 am to Jobin
Being a civil service drone has its own set of doldrums. That 40 hour week can be a bleak life. Some love it because it keeps weekends free. If you take it make sure you have some excitement in your life other than work. Bennies should be pretty good.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:08 am to Jobin
Voluntarily taking a 35% pay cut in this current economy seems crazy to me
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:13 am to Jobin
More to life than money. Engineer myself and made a similar change in 09 (at 38) and don’t regret it at all. Had dinner with a guy I work with 78(ish) that made a similar change at 44 years old. He told me last night he wouldn’t still be here if he hadn’t made the change.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:16 am to Jobin
just depends on the type of person you are.
i cannot fricking stand doing work when im off. on my off days, the most ive been expected to do would be an email or short call and everyone has been really cool and understanding since you aren't supposed to be working. i still hate when that happens, just completely removes me from life, im terrible at adjusting. some of my friends dont care at all. they will take a call, do some work on vacation, etc...
i would HATE your job. if i was expected to be on call 24/7, i just dont think i could manage it. i dont think that's any way to live. you didn't mention vacation/PTO with current gig. if there was enough of it, i could maybe make it work.
85k/year is absolutely plenty to live and live well on. anyone telling you differently is jaded and either terrible with money or used to living a lifestyle that they probably shouldnt be.
my opinion is to do whatever makes you happier. is it the money and the freedom in the job? or is it the structure and the days/time off? know yourself and what you may like better.
i cannot fricking stand doing work when im off. on my off days, the most ive been expected to do would be an email or short call and everyone has been really cool and understanding since you aren't supposed to be working. i still hate when that happens, just completely removes me from life, im terrible at adjusting. some of my friends dont care at all. they will take a call, do some work on vacation, etc...
i would HATE your job. if i was expected to be on call 24/7, i just dont think i could manage it. i dont think that's any way to live. you didn't mention vacation/PTO with current gig. if there was enough of it, i could maybe make it work.
85k/year is absolutely plenty to live and live well on. anyone telling you differently is jaded and either terrible with money or used to living a lifestyle that they probably shouldnt be.
my opinion is to do whatever makes you happier. is it the money and the freedom in the job? or is it the structure and the days/time off? know yourself and what you may like better.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:20 am to rockchlkjayhku11
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85k/year is absolutely plenty to live and live well on. anyone telling you differently is jaded and either terrible with money or used to living a lifestyle that they probably shouldnt be.
$85k is enough to live. If you are a single income $85k insnt really cutting it to live "well" in a lot of places now. Average homes are well over $300k, it costs $400/month just for basic necessities from the grocery store, etc.
At $85k you have to be really diligent with your spending and probably still can't afford to buy a decent house.
Which is insane because that's more money than most people make
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:23 am to rockchlkjayhku11
I left a 10 year gig because of commuting from Br to Nola and an additional 150 days of travel annually. Switched industries and took a 30% pay cut to be home more with small kids. 5 years later I'm ahead in pay and much less travel.
If nothing changes, then nothing changes.
If nothing changes, then nothing changes.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:34 am to SPEEDY
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Voluntarily taking a 35% pay cut in this current economy seems crazy to me
Just depends on your view for educated, white collar workers.
Unemployment is really low, has been for 5-6ish years - and especially so for white collar employees. If you believe that will continue, the risk seems pretty low.
(Though generally, I agree with you - changing jobs when the economy is weird carries some risk.
Source: I changed jobs in 2002 AND 2009 - bad times were had.)
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:36 am to GRTiger
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Personally I'm not taking a 50k haircut to give this up for a steady 8-5.
I took a little haircut to move back to the office recently. Not sure I would have taken a $50K cut either....
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:40 am to Aubie Spr96
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I took a little haircut to move back to the office recently. Not sure I would have taken a $50K cut either
Glad you have some friends now
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