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re: Career change advice
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:10 pm to Jobin
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:10 pm to Jobin
I’d suggest do what makes you happy.
If you take the DOD job will you have federal benefits? That would be my decision maker.
It’s also great to have flexibility to play golf when you feel like doing so
If you take the DOD job will you have federal benefits? That would be my decision maker.
It’s also great to have flexibility to play golf when you feel like doing so
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:12 pm to Jobin
I’d call a meeting with my boss to tell him about your dilemma and see if he will make some concessions. If he does, then great. If he says no then tell him thanks for employing me for 14 years but I’m going to be putting in my notice.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:12 pm to Tshiz
Agree. With the issue of you having a ton of money in the bank and adding to it substantially every paycheck. And maxing out your 401k and any profit sharing programs they have to their max.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:14 pm to deeprig9
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what the frick do you care about Work/Life Balance?
Service company field engineer for 9 years and account manager for the last 5. Trust me when I say you have no life in those positions. I have enough money that it’s not something I am focusing on these days.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:15 pm to Jobin
Never take a pay cut. You can find someone else to pay you the same amount of money for a better schedule.
You never leave a job for less money or for less of a title
You never leave a job for less money or for less of a title
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:17 pm to Jobin
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DoD civilian
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upward mobility pretty easily
They’re lying.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:17 pm to Jobin
Money isn’t everything but I don’t know if I’d voluntarily give up $45k in salary with the way costs are rising.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:18 pm to Jobin
What kinds of work related "activities" are you required to do 24/7? Do you mean answering emails or a phone call or do you have to go out in the field?
The O&G industry does not keep banker's hours, and issues constantly pop up. It's not for everyone, but you can make good money.
Honestly, since you say you have complete autonomy in your job, work from home, and barely see your boss, I would think long and hard about taking such a huge decrease in pay to be stuck in an office all day. Sounds pretty miserable.
The O&G industry does not keep banker's hours, and issues constantly pop up. It's not for everyone, but you can make good money.
Honestly, since you say you have complete autonomy in your job, work from home, and barely see your boss, I would think long and hard about taking such a huge decrease in pay to be stuck in an office all day. Sounds pretty miserable.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:25 pm to Jobin
Important question: how much work does that 2am call require? A 2 minute assessment and decision? Or, get up and work for 2 hours?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:26 pm to HouseMom
I agree.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:28 pm to Jobin
Probably someone out there who will pay you more than you make now with less hours. Look more.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:29 pm to Jobin
Minimum pay for a GS13 in Norfolk/VA Beach area is $95,169. And there is a roughly 4.5% pay increase coming in January. It will take you roughly 18 years to go from GS 13 Step 1 to a Step 10 making $123,717 (in today's dollars). Typically, you would need to be willing to manage people to become a GS 14 or 15 where max salary is a congressionally capped 176,300. Promotion past 13 is highly competitive, not always based on who the best candidate is, and often requires waiting a long time for someone to retire or moving to DC. You will get 75% of your health insurance premiums covered, would retire around 62, and get 5% matching on your 401k. The pension is decent, but overrated as it only covers about 1/3 of your retirement (with your 401k and social security designed to pick up the rest).
You might be able to negotiate with HR to make you a Step 10 now since you already make more in the private sector but this would have to be done before accepting the position and isn't guaranteed.
Federal job would give you more routine hours, but that also comes at a price (not just in reduced pay). You will be "on the clock" and fill out a literal time card for that 8-4:30 so no more golf outings or happy hours. The autonomy over your work will be completely gone as you would now be accountable to the world's largest bureaucracy, which will force you to document and justify every decision made, especially if it involves money.
Don't underestimate the autonomy you have now if that is important to you. It will be a massive transition, especially working for the military.
A federal job is a good career, but it's not the easy road many assume it to be.
You might be able to negotiate with HR to make you a Step 10 now since you already make more in the private sector but this would have to be done before accepting the position and isn't guaranteed.
Federal job would give you more routine hours, but that also comes at a price (not just in reduced pay). You will be "on the clock" and fill out a literal time card for that 8-4:30 so no more golf outings or happy hours. The autonomy over your work will be completely gone as you would now be accountable to the world's largest bureaucracy, which will force you to document and justify every decision made, especially if it involves money.
Don't underestimate the autonomy you have now if that is important to you. It will be a massive transition, especially working for the military.
A federal job is a good career, but it's not the easy road many assume it to be.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:29 pm to Jobin
You only make 130?
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:31 pm to Jobin
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O&G and have been in the industry 14 years
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engineer
You could make what you’re making now without that crazy schedule if you’re willing to move. You could even work nearly full remote for a consulting firm or contract house and make that. Idk what kind of engineer you are, but now is the time to bounce and capitalize on that experience.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:34 pm to Jobin
F that. Get one of those ice road trucking jobs. Live in the bush and don’t shower for days at a time. Not a big deal, it’s -20 and you won’t sweat much. When your off they probably have some truck stop tittie bars with naked Eskimo women shake their money maker. The beer probabaly flows like water.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:35 pm to Jobin
Well, first thing I would do is negotiate with the first company for time off and increased pay. Then decide.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:35 pm to GusMcRae
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how much work does that 2am call require? A 2 minute assessment and decision? Or, get up and work for 2 hours?
Depends. I’d say never less than an hour though. I do have the occasions where I have to go to a field location.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:38 pm to Jobin
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Service company field engineer
Do you have a degree in engineering?
Can you find another contractor to work for?
Just having the time to waste playing golf 1-2 times a year is worth way more than what you think. I don't think my clubs have moved in five years.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:38 pm to Jobin
$50K pay cut at your age is pretty harsh. Later in life I’d jump at that deal. I’d try to move up where I am to a less demanding time schedule if possible.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:39 pm to kengel2
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Do you have a degree in engineering?
I have a BS in bioengineering and an MBA.
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Can you find another contractor to work for?
I’m sure that I could. Personnel is limited in the industry right now.
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