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Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Jobin
Member since May 2009
3472 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:35 pm
Probably TL;DR

I’m currently in O&G and have been in the industry 14 years. Have a very good job where I make ~$130k/yr with good benefits. I work from home, have met with my boss 3 times over the last 2 years and have complete autonomy in my day-to-day life. I play golf 1-2 times per week in the summer, go to happy hours, industry outings, etc. But I am on call 24 hrs a day with no ‘days off’. I have done some sort of work related activity every day since early June. Some calls come at 10am. Some at 2am. Always have to be available.

Have an opportunity to be DoD civilian working for the Navy as a GS-13 engineer on the eastern shore of VA. Pay is going to be about $85k/yr to start with upward mobility pretty easily. Will have 8-430, M-F with very limited out of office hours calls from what I’m told from my very good friend who has worked at this facility for 6 years.

I am definitely leaning to take the Navy job just to finally have a normal work/life balance. Any thoughts on whether taking the stability over the money is worth it?

Just as an add….I’m mid 30s single with no kids. Would be able to get ~$115k in equity if I sold my house and relocated.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
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Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by rondo
Worst. Poster. Evar.
Member since Jan 2004
77407 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:38 pm to
Do what makes you happy

frick money as a decision maker


/thread
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:39 pm to
You should be saving a ton of money and retiring early.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19486 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:39 pm to
quote:

But I am on call 24 hrs a day with no ‘days off’. I have done some sort of work related activity every day since early June. Some calls come at 10am. Some at 2am. Always have to be available.


If I'm that fricking critical, I'mma need more money.

If that were me, I'd take a haircut for sanity's sake. Now - a 40% cut? Ehhhh....
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19495 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:41 pm to

If you’re moving from LA to VA, cost of living might be a factor. Housing too.
Posted by Jobin
Member since May 2009
3472 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:43 pm to
I’m currently in western PA.
Posted by go_tigres
Member since Sep 2013
5152 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:44 pm to
I don’t know about your financial situation but I took a 40k cut in pay recently to work 8-4:30 in town whereas I was 5-6 days in different cities working 12 or so hours a day. It’s been worth it
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:46 pm to
quote:

I work from home, have met with my boss 3 times over the last 2 years and have complete autonomy in my day-to-day life. I play golf 1-2 times per week in the summer, go to happy hours, industry outings, etc. But I am on call 24 hrs a day with no ‘days off’. I have done some sort of work related activity every day since early June. Some calls come at 10am. Some at 2am. Always have to be available


Personally I'm not taking a 50k haircut to give this up for a steady 8-5. The occasional 2am call keeps things spicy.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65617 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:46 pm to

Retiring from the DoD earlier in life than most would attract me.
Posted by TigerCop89
Member since Sep 2015
190 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:47 pm to
In my experience hours are never that easy for a GS civilian job for DOD. I have seen DA civilians work crazy hours for less pay than what their military counterparts receive.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13652 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:48 pm to
Have you tried to negotiate some days or nights off of being “on call”? Can’t imagine a job where they expect you at a happy hour to schmooze clients, and expect you to answer a technical question later that night. Norfolk/Hamptons Road sucks if you’re single
Posted by thedentist45
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2008
557 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:50 pm to
With the flexibility from your current job, just take DoD job and keep current one until they find out.

Kidding. If I’m single in my 30’s, I’d opt for the current spot but also, if nobody is relying on me but me, much smaller risk to career change compared to if you were married with kids.


Posted by Jobin
Member since May 2009
3472 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:51 pm to
I would normally agree with you but I have a very close friend that has worked at this facility for 6 years and trust completely. They would not give me false info and their working hours outside of a normal tour have been very limited.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18330 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

I’m mid 30s single with no kids.
quote:

I make ~$130k/yr with good benefits


You’ve got to have some serious coin in the bank.
Posted by TigerCop89
Member since Sep 2015
190 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

I would normally agree with you but I have a very close friend that has worked at this facility for 6 years and trust completely. They would not give me false info and their working hours outside of a normal tour have been very limited.


In knowing that FERS and TSP are great on the fed side. Would make the pay cut worth it IMO.
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3251 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

I make ~$130k/yr with good benefits. I work from home


What the frick am I doing wrong.

I make pretty damn close to this working 12/day plus 60mile one-way drive. And I have to be available at all hours for jobsite emergencies.


Is your job hiring unqualified idiots to do this work? I can bullshite my through 6-12 months with the best of them.

Asking for a friend of course.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63867 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:05 pm to
quote:

I am definitely leaning to take the Navy job just to finally have a normal work/life balance. Any thoughts on whether taking the stability over the money is worth it?

Just as an add….I’m mid 30s single with no kids. Would be able to get ~$115k in equity if I sold my house and relocated.


Honest question. If you are single in your 30's with no kids, what the frick do you care about Work/Life Balance?

In your position, make that money homey.

Once you get married and have kids, work/life balance is no longer a luxury, but a requirement for you.

While not tethered, rack up the money. If you settle down with a nice young man and adopt some babies, then you take the shitty DoD job.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7542 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:06 pm to
Im sorry but I’m not going from 130k to 85k overnight if I don’t have to.

Ask your current job for a raise to 150k. Seems like you are worth it if you are Truely that on critical.

Money drives life and lifestyle
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 7:09 pm to
Need to look at locale pay as well as if you can negotiate your step level in gs…if you want an option easier path to a pension then civil service is it…
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