re: Career Builder's CEO: Young people are 'ghosting' employers

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any of them also expect companies to do more politically rather than stick to the sidelines. Three-quarters of 18- to 34-year-olds expect their company to take a stand on issues like immigration, equal rights, and climate change, according to a Glassdoor survey from 2017.

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WTF is this. I want to fight the GEN Z outside NOW

I didn't see anyone else in this thread say it but I think you can also attribute some of this to the lack of common courtesy in today's world. Everyone has their faces shoved in a phone doing social media or emails and have lost the ability to interact face to face. You see it in every other type of social interaction and I think that extends to walking into your bosses office and letting him know you are leaving the job. It is an uncomfortable interaction and I think many people would rather say "frick it" and walk away than deal with the face to face notification.

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They are also bolder in salary negotiations. Nearly 3 in 5 millennials and Gen Zers say they have leveraged a potential job offer as a negotiation tactic to get a pay raise at their current job. 

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Everyone should be willing to do this regardless of generation. Know your value and make your move when it's right.

But ghosting can really bite you in the arse later. While true that companies don't have to give you the same courtesy, you may end up seeing some of the coworkers or managers again some years down the road especially if you stay in the same city/region. If I needed to look for a job, I've got connections all over the industry now that I feel I could leverage.

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why should employees offer the employer the courtesy of a notice?

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uh, you've burnt that bridge. And if you're in a specialty occupation like me that's fairly small then you've burnt that bridge and also given pause to others in the industry that might hire you down the road.

Also if you have clients you've left them hanging too, so forget about working for that client again.

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uh, you've burnt that bridge. And if you're in a specialty occupation like me that's fairly small then you've burnt that bridge and also given pause to others in the industry that might hire you down the road.

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This. You never know who you'll work for down the road, and where they've worked previously.

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Figured they already found something, but a courtesy call or email would’ve been a little more respectful.

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Probably, but some of those people have likely been ghosted by potential employers in their job search. I think employers should start to recognize that. While your company may not be guilty of it, it's hard to blame people for abandoning common courtesy when those same courtesies haven't been afforded to them by other companies. If you haven't been in the job hunt game in recent years, it is a completely demoralizing experience. Submit an application/resume, sit around waiting for a response while having no contact info to see if your application/resume is even under consideration, get a call for an interview 3 weeks later, go to interview and do well and told to hear something soon, 3-4 weeks go by with nothing and no return calls or emails when you follow up, etc.

Not all companies are like this, but many are.

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Probably, but some of those people have likely been ghosted by potential employers in their job search. I think employers should start to recognize that. While your company may not be guilty of it, it's hard to blame people for abandoning common courtesy when those same courtesies haven't been afforded to them by other companies. If you haven't been in the job hunt game in recent years, it is a completely demoralizing experience. Submit an application/resume, sit around waiting for a response while having no contact info to see if your application/resume is even under consideration, get a call for an interview 3 weeks later, go to interview and do well and told to hear something soon, 3-4 weeks go by with nothing and no return calls or emails when you follow up, etc.

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Very annoying. I've gotten email notifications months and months later where it was obvious they were clearing out their backlog in their HR system.

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Gen Z

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I honestly pity this generation. They were indoctrinated from almost birth with radical socialist/progressive propaganda to the point they’ll never be functioning, happy, and productive adults. It’s really sad. They never had a chance.

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Very annoying. I've gotten email notifications months and months later where it was obvious they were clearing out their backlog in their HR system.

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The worst is when they don’t even have the sack to tell it to you straight

Went to one and they said I should know by the end of the week. I tend to be over anxious about these things so I made myself wait an extra week (I had also read that they have a history of taking a while to call you back after the interview and did want to sound too anxious)

Finally decide to give them a call and see whatsup, the girl who I had communicating with (who was also the front desk employee so no real reason to ignore me) I called her direct line and the company line with no answer.

About 45 minutes later I get a general “we’ve moved on to other candidates” email template.

Like I get it, I’m not mad you did hire me, but if I call you atleast have the balls to answer and let me know with your own voice

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I was literally told I had gotten the job, signed a thing agreeing to a salary, called my references.... and then just disappeared.

2 months later I got a system generated email from their system after I didn't get the job telling me sorry but "please continue to apply here in the future"

It was bad, I was furious, sad, and confused when I got the email, and ended up just kinda going into hibernation for a few days. That was my lowest point in my professional career

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I have a coworker that got a rejection letter a year after he started the job he was "rejected" for.