re: Car and Driver: 2025 4Runner TrailHunter Test

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I hope that Nissan and GM are seeing the MSRP on these 4Runners and consider making a 4 door SUV based off their Frontier and Canyon/Colorado.

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Ford already makes a Ranger-based SUV called the Everest that I’ve seen in other countries. In New Zealand specifically it was probably the most common new SUV I saw there. Wish they would bring it to the states.

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This 4cylinder 4Runner is none of that...

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Then don’t buy it.. go buy a used 4Runner. Or a V8 Tahoe. Or literally anything else. If they are overpriced and people don’t buy them, then they will either adapt or die off.

You also picked the most expensive model out of the entire lineup.

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They are used exactly like a minivan 99.99% of the time,

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That's a massive distinction. What they are "used" for and what a TRD is "capable" of are completely different things and to be clear no...a TRD is not like a minivan.

Agreed.

I don't tow my car or my boat every day with my truck, but I need it when I need it

Thanks for the link

Austrailians are able to purchase a single cab, 4wd, 6 speed stick shift, 2.2l diesel Ranger.



Mexico has had the Hilux since the late 80s with any configuration you can think of(22r )...the government ruins everything man. Not nearly as big of a fan of the newer Hiluxes but from 1983-2008 that may be the best built truck to never be sold in America. We didn't get a 4 door Tacoma until 2001, almost 20 years after the rest of the world.

Only retards are spending 69K on a 4Runner. There are several 4WD options in the 45-55K range. You can still get a good 4Runner for a decent price.

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I'm in the minority, but I'm not a huge hybrid fan.

The more I read, the more my opinion is that hybrids just add another complex system to a vehicle that is typically already very efficient.

In other words, too much sugar for a dime

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The 4Runner has always been endearing to 4Runner enthusiast because of it's simplicity. We, any many others, bought a 4Runner knowing it's not the fastest, not the most fuel efficient, not the most overloaded with tech and massive screens, but you can count on the 5th Gen getting you there and back for many trouble-free miles/years at a modest price. We currently intend to keep ours for the long haul. They took all of those qualities that people loved and threw them in the trash. Now it's just another over-teched, overcomplicated, overpriced SUV that still doesn't get that great of mileage with crappy packaging for the hybrid/turbo crap.

Also, it's ugly. The catfish/double Hulk mustache is terrible. Someone found out the Tacoma front end is a direct bolt on, I suspect this swap to get pretty popular.

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They are used exactly like a minivan 99.99% of the time, and that’s the truth. I went though car line for many years.

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To be fair, if you live in either NOLA or Baton Rouge, you probably use that extra ground clearance and off-road ready suspension on the daily