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re: Can the OT provide some actual legit advice on a job situation please?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:42 am to TDsngumbo
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:42 am to TDsngumbo
It sounds like a service to sales position. It is a model that a lot of insurance agency used, for example.
Those transition to sales propositions are always oversold as easy achievable, high growth potential. The “work hard for 6 months” line can easily expand to a year or more and you ride it out because you are already invested a lot of time and sacrifice.
I’ve seen many good hardworking people burnout. Corporate absorbs their book of business and moves on to the next “up and comer.”
Those transition to sales propositions are always oversold as easy achievable, high growth potential. The “work hard for 6 months” line can easily expand to a year or more and you ride it out because you are already invested a lot of time and sacrifice.
I’ve seen many good hardworking people burnout. Corporate absorbs their book of business and moves on to the next “up and comer.”
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 6:48 am
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:45 am to TDsngumbo
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This position would require nearly every weekend almost immediately for a temporary time, with a couple weekends thrown in here and there throughout the rest of the year. This is also roughly 12 hour days.
Pass. Don't care what it pays.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:48 am to TDsngumbo
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unlimited PTO
One of the worst things to come out of the pandemic.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:49 am to Seeker
It’s in the insurance industry but it’s with one of the most premier brokers I’ve had my eye on for a long time. Very reputable, very genuine, and known for doing the right thing for the customer instead of for themselves. They even pay you if you set the customer up with a plan that’s right for them but doesn’t pay the broker (they’re hyper focused on doing the right thing). I’ve applied in the past but got passed up and of course now, when the timing couldn’t be more terrible, they want me.
I’ve built my entire career on doing the right thing for the customer, and even turning business away if what they need is not something I can help with instead of forcing them into a plan I know isn’t right. I was taught early on that ethics is the number one priority and that has stuck with me, so this position with this employer has been a dream of mine for a while. It just sucks so bad that the timing is terrible for me right now.
I’ve built my entire career on doing the right thing for the customer, and even turning business away if what they need is not something I can help with instead of forcing them into a plan I know isn’t right. I was taught early on that ethics is the number one priority and that has stuck with me, so this position with this employer has been a dream of mine for a while. It just sucks so bad that the timing is terrible for me right now.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:50 am to TDsngumbo
Something money cant replace is time with your family.
Having young kids you will never be able to get this time that is so important in your kids life and your relationship with them back.
Stay put, spend time with your family and work on new business.
You will never regret any time you spend with family but will regret not spending time with them.
Time will come they are on their own and you would kill to go back to days when they were young.
This is best time of your life and don’t want to miss experiences and making memories with kids.
Later in life that is all you will have.
Having young kids you will never be able to get this time that is so important in your kids life and your relationship with them back.
Stay put, spend time with your family and work on new business.
You will never regret any time you spend with family but will regret not spending time with them.
Time will come they are on their own and you would kill to go back to days when they were young.
This is best time of your life and don’t want to miss experiences and making memories with kids.
Later in life that is all you will have.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 6:50 am
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:50 am to TDsngumbo
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This job offer would put a massive wrench in our plans, but would be considerably more money at the expense of my time since it would put me out of the picture for nearly every family function and football season.
It's hard to take this seriously when football season is such a focal point in your motivation one way or another.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:53 am to thegreatboudini
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It's hard to take this seriously when football season is such a focal point in your motivation one way or another.
I don’t pay over $4,000 a year on tickets to watch the game on mute while talking to 68 year old Althea who can’t find her checking account number.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:55 am to TDsngumbo
quote:Is not bad money, but is becoming tougher with a family to be able to do things you want/enjoy.
$90k a year
quote:You have to take this if you are being honest about the realistic part. But if you get that wrong, taking a pay cut to work more hours is brutal.
realistic total earnings of $150k-$180k a year.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:57 am to TDsngumbo
quote:Out of curiosity, how is the pay going to increase to more than what you are making now?
It’s in the insurance industry but it’s with one of the most premier brokers I’ve had my eye on for a long time. Very reputable, very genuine, and known for doing the right thing for the customer instead of for themselves. They even pay you if you set the customer up with a plan that’s right for them but doesn’t pay the broker (they’re hyper focused on doing the right thing). I’ve applied in the past but got passed up and of course now, when the timing couldn’t be more terrible, they want me.
For example, the company I joined required a year of hard work and less pay before I was able to buy in as a shareholder and gain a substantial increase in pay with even bigger increases over the following 5-6 years.
I could have taken a more defined salary with less upside with the same sacrifice that I was already putting in as far as family/home life is concerned, but sacrificing some time now for a better life later worked out.
I don’t think 6 months of hard work for a better life is that bad, especially if you despise your current job and you are unsure if your business will work out.
I would say make the jump.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:00 am to TDsngumbo
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the fear of failing at this business then looking back on the time I took the best job offer I've ever had and threw it in the trash is haunting me big time.
Try looking at the fear of taking the new job and it not panning out as promised and throwing away the opportunity to start your own business.
Nobody got wealthy by being adverse to taking risk. Scared money don’t make money
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:04 am to TDsngumbo
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but the fear of failing at this business then looking back on the time I took the best job offer I've ever had and threw it in the trash is haunting me big time.
The best job offer you’ve ever had has you making a little bit more money in exchange for all of your weekends and spending only a fraction of the amount of time with your family?
Are you retarded?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:05 am to deltaland
quote:This isn’t an indictment of the OP and his business, but the VAST majority of businesses fail.
Nobody got wealthy by being adverse to taking risk. Scared money don’t make money
That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take any risks, but you should always be smart about it.
OP, what is the risk to the business you are starting if you slow down its implementation for 6 months?
If you are on a timeline and you can’t wait, that does complicate things, but if you can pause while you get into a new position that has great upsides with some initial sacrifice, what is the problem?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:06 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:You wouldn’t sacrifice 6 months for a substantially better job?
The best job offer you’ve ever had has you making a little bit more money in exchange for all of your weekends and spending only a fraction of the amount of time with your family?
Really?
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:07 am to TDsngumbo
Stay where you are. The job sounds awful. It’s also been my experience when they say things like that it doesn’t come to fruition. The “potential” doesn’t happen. At least that’s what I’ve seen. Guess it depends on the career.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:10 am to Dixie2023
quote:But his current job is awful and had given him legitimate medical issues.
Stay where you are. The job sounds awful.
quote:This is a legit question that OP needs to have an answer for.
It’s also been my experience when they say things like that it doesn’t come to fruition. The “potential” doesn’t happen. At least that’s what I’ve seen. Guess it depends on the career.
If it is a “trial” type period without guaranteed advancement, that makes the situation FAR more questionable.
To be honest, I am a little confused by the OT’s views about initial job sacrifice for a better outcome in the future.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:12 am to Scruffy
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You wouldn’t sacrifice 6 months for a substantially better job? Really?
Nothing about that job sounds substantially better to me.
The “six months of hard work, then it cools down” is laughably naive. To make the big bucks he thinks are a sure thing, that 6 months is gonna be 12 months. Per year.
And no making an extra 30-50k is not even in the same universe of the amount I’d need to not be with my kids on weekends. Missing a zero there. shite maybe 2.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:15 am
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:18 am to Scruffy
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To be honest, I am a little confused by the OT’s views about initial job sacrifice for a better outcome in the future.
Because everyone knows there’s very very little chance it works out that way AND he’s giving up his chance to be his own boss and start his own business, which he’s already poured time, money and effort into.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:20 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:I agree that that would have to be more defined, but if it is legitimately 6 months of sacrifice for $30-50k more per year, that is a trade off I would make any day of the week.
The “six months of hard work, then it cools down” is laughably naive. To make the big bucks he thinks are a sure thing, that 6 months is gonna be 12 months. Per year.
That isn’t an insubstantial amount of money.
If it turns into a misdirection, yes, that would suck, but it seems as if OP has done his homework and has applied for this position before, so I would assume he knows the situation better than us.
On top of that, he despises his current job, which has caused actual medical problems.
I am not one to usually say that you should quit your job if you don’t love it, but there is a difference between “not loving it” and “it causes me such anxiety and stress that I have medical problems”.
Posted on 7/9/26 at 7:24 am to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Sure, which is why I asked if there would be an issue to pause during this time period.
Because everyone knows there’s very very little chance it works out that way AND he’s giving up his chance to be his own boss and start his own business, which he’s already poured time, money and effort into.
If there is a timeline issue, it complicates it a lot.
Also, 50% of all new businesses fail in the first 5 years, 25% within the first year.
That isn’t a reason not to take the risk, but, just as there is a chance the job doesn’t work out as expected, there is a chance that the business doesn’t work out either.
OP seems to know about this business and job as he did apply for it in the past.
That doesn’t seem to be his holdup, unless he expounded on that in other posts.
This post was edited on 7/9/26 at 7:25 am
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