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Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:40 pm to TT9
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I did in threads before this one. On multiple occasions.
link?
i’ll wait. Link to where you’ve stated facts backed by research/documentation.
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about damn time you can admit some facts.
no one here is arguing that fact you ignorant hillbilly
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:41 pm to nycguy
If you peel back the onion, the $4.1 trillion is not as impressive. Excessive real estate values and white collar companies that could move away prop up that value.


Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:43 pm to DarthRebel
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If you peel back the onion, the $4.1 trillion is not as impressive. Excessive real estate values and white collar companies that could move away prop up that value.
You could say that about pretty much any state
You haven't peeled back anything of relevance
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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What’s that saying…..”people vote with their feet”
Yeah, poor people. If you can afford to live there its actually quite nice.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:47 pm to Lakeboy7
interesting OT Baller flex.
you must be pulling down quite the salary to live comfortably in Cali or are you talking on behalf of other rich people?
you must be pulling down quite the salary to live comfortably in Cali or are you talking on behalf of other rich people?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:49 pm to DarthRebel
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If you peel back the onion, the $4.1 trillion is not as impressive. Excessive real estate values and white collar companies that could move away prop up that value.
Correct. And the 1.6 trillion in debt they have which is actually probably higher because the illegal aliens they are giving free health care to are not captured into the future debt obligations
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:56 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
How come some are adjusted and others not? Adjusted for income gas probably isn’t bad, etc
Posted on 4/24/25 at 2:57 pm to nycguy
Nominal GDP, you need to look at Real GDP which is adjusted for inflation. If you look at Real GDP California's growth rate is only 2% Texas by comparison is 7.4%.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:02 pm to Klark Kent
I'm an extremely busy machine. I don't have time to link my facts.
It would literally take forever.
It would literally take forever.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:20 pm to nycguy
From google AI-
"If US states were ranked by GDP against other countries, 32 states would fall within the world's top 50 largest economies."
I think this is impressive as well.
"If US states were ranked by GDP against other countries, 32 states would fall within the world's top 50 largest economies."
I think this is impressive as well.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:43 pm to Powerman
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You could say that about pretty much any state
You haven't peeled back anything of relevance
Well, I kind of have
Explain to me how we are going to pick up "Mining, Quarrying, and Oil & Gas Extraction" and move that to California?
China for fun
Germany for more fun
The California economy is not the juggernaut many paint it to be. The tech industry of the bay area is roughly 25-30% of the total GDP. As proven so far, those companies can move from California with ease.
Companies that have moved
Oracle
HPE
Palantir
Tesla
VMWare
Zoom
GoDaddy
Companies laying the groundwork through expansion
Dropbox
Alphabet
Salesforce
Apple
Netflix
Block
Expedia
Airbnb
Most are moving or expanding into Texas. Austin and Hill Country is basically the new Silicon Valley.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:43 pm to Klark Kent
OT baller is what? >80,00 per annum?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 3:46 pm to Lakeboy7
are you seriously suggesting that you could live comfortably in California on $80k/year?
I hope you like living in a 9x9 apartment by yourself in a strict budget with no social life.
I hope you like living in a 9x9 apartment by yourself in a strict budget with no social life.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 3:42 am to nycguy
If California, Oregon and Washington left the Union and formed a separate country they would have a per capita gdp greater than any major nation.
In the same time if the American North East left with New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland Delaware, Virginia, New Hamshire, Maine and Vermont, that nation would also have a per capita gdp greater than any major nation.
Combine that with a free trade agreement between these two nations, Canada and a free passage for citizens through Canada and you have a modern day economic powerhouse zone with one of the highest per capita GDP. Extend this with FTA with Australia, NZ and the UK and you have a economy far more robust than both the US, EU or China.
In the same time if the American North East left with New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Maryland Delaware, Virginia, New Hamshire, Maine and Vermont, that nation would also have a per capita gdp greater than any major nation.
Combine that with a free trade agreement between these two nations, Canada and a free passage for citizens through Canada and you have a modern day economic powerhouse zone with one of the highest per capita GDP. Extend this with FTA with Australia, NZ and the UK and you have a economy far more robust than both the US, EU or China.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 3:44 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:20 am to John Barron
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California receives $161.7 billion in federal funds
Yet they are 48th in Federal dependency, only Washington and NJ are lower.
#4 Mississippi
#6 Alabama
#7 Kentucky
#12 Louisiana
#16 South Carolina
#19 Oklahoma
#27 Arkansas
#32 Tennessee
#34 Texas
#36 Florida
#39 Georgia
#45 Missouri
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:30 am to TigerHornII
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Louisiana may or may not be a welfare state, but these rankings are skewed just like GDP is without looking at the big picture. States with a lot of military, NASA or other Fed facilities "receive" federal funding in the form of the budgets for those agencies, and it gets counted here in these "rankings". The impression you're supposed to get is that this is all some kind of federal welfare giveaway, but it's not for many of the states on the list.
California probably has more military than any other state in the union.
Louisiana is a very poor state but that’s mostly because of our welfare demographics and it leans left politically for everything outside of presidential elections.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:48 am to Powerman
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Dude Louisiana is a welfare state Louisiana is the one doing the robbing if anything
The federal government takes all the oil revenue off our coast for itself.
That revenue should have made this state rich. Texas gets 9 miles we get 3.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 7:02 am
Posted on 4/25/25 at 6:54 am to HeadCall
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California probably has more military than any other state in the union.
The highest concentration of military in the entire world resides in coastal virginia
Langley AFB
Oceana NAB
Norfolk Naval Base(Home of the Atlantic Fleet).
Not to mention the army base near Langley
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