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re: Cali Legislature attempting to make it illegal for store employees to confront shoplifters

Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:21 am to
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
5167 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:21 am to
If I'm a retail store of any kind in Cali, I'm moving every last location out of any woke cities and out of the state if possible.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:22 am to
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The company doesnt want to pay the medical bills if you get your arse beat.


Thats not whats driving the bill.

Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
41448 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:24 am to
I agree. I hate how we have to have a law for everything.

If a worker doesn't want to do it, just don't fricking do it. No employer in Cali is going to take the chance of sending an employee after someone stealing, unless they're retarded. That's how you get these idiots to sue you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:25 am to
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. I hate how we have to have a law for everything.


Because of plaintiff attnys.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47825 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:26 am to
what if you are hired as security?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130451 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:27 am to
And then they will complain that no one will open for business in the state.

Ah leftists.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
19215 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:27 am to
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If you're a store employee, why the hell would you want to stop it anyway? $15/hr isn't worth something happening to you.

Guess it depends on how far this bill goes. Obviously, a store employee should not be chasing down a shoplifter (or running them over with their car), but would this bill preclude that minimum wage employee from actually saying something to the shoplifter? I have seen a number of shop lifting attempts stopped just from the clerk/cashier yelling at the kids asking what they're doing. Kids drop whatever they tried to pocket, and bolt out of the door. Would this now be illegal if this legislation passes?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282536 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:27 am to
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No employer in Cali is going to take the chance of sending an employee after someone stealing,


I believe under this law, you can't say anything to them.

they can walk in, walk out and never deal with the consequences of their action.

California realized minorities commit most of the crime and are desperately trying to empty the prisons.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71672 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:28 am to
not illegal to steal

illegal to prevent stealing


makes sense.
Posted by PeteRose
Hall of Fame
Member since Aug 2014
17511 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Non commie Asian societies are the best place in the world to live right now. Personally I’d pick Japan.


The thing with Asians is that they don’t tolerate BS. The are generally quiet and calm. But go to steal from them and see what happens.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
25244 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:30 am to
They’re also by in large extremely respectable and respectful. They put out the best entertainment by in large in video games and movies/tv right now too. I’d move to Japan if I could.
This post was edited on 6/6/23 at 9:31 am
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
16920 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:32 am to
quote:

what if you are hired as security?


This was my first thought as well. It would deem security and loss prevention staff useless.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
75079 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:33 am to
Effectively this would eliminate security guard jobs. Comical.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10959 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:33 am to
Clown state.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:34 am to
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Thats not whats driving the bill.


Workman's comp concerns are always a thing with these companies.

But its also litigation. Which, again, is why the law is unnecessary. Companies are already telling employees not to do this.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Guess it depends on how far this bill goes. Obviously, a store employee should not be chasing down a shoplifter (or running them over with their car), but would this bill preclude that minimum wage employee from actually saying something to the shoplifter?


That would be a step too far, for any reasonable person.
Posted by Spoonbilla
Member since Aug 2022
874 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:37 am to
They have any West Marines in Kalifornia? I could use a shopping cart full of stuff for the boat.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
13950 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:37 am to
Clown world
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69818 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Effectively this would eliminate security guard jobs. Comical.



this is also my follow-up question. cashiers, sure. but what about in store security?
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 6/6/23 at 9:37 am to
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Non commie Asian societies are the best place in the world to live right now. Personally I’d pick Japan.


Happening with non yakuza gangs in japan right now too:

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