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re: BR smoking ban fails

Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:05 pm to
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:05 pm to
Bars are bars. If you don't like tobacco smoke I'm sure that there's a coffee clatch somewhere... Maybe at a Starbucks or some other local coffee shop. But bars are- and should always be- where people do their dirty business of smoking and drinking. Bars without smoking are where bureaucrats go to act cool and frick them...

DISCLOSURE- I smoked until 18 months ago. Bars are not restaurants. Smoke away.
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 10:08 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
119656 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

where people do their dirty business of smoking and drinking.


Not every bar is some grimy dive
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37735 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:11 pm to
The second hand smoke is hazardous is a foolish notion tonise for bars, even if true. Alcohol is hazardous too. Glad it failed.
Posted by Hogtastic Voyage
Fayetteville
Member since Dec 2010
1357 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:15 pm to
Is there no compromise to be had? Here in Fayetteville, which is as "progressive" as just about any city in the south, we have smoking bans in restaurants or bars that make a certain percentage of their income from food, but if a drinking only establishment wants to allow smoking then it's their choice. Are they trying to pass an all out ban on smoking in any indoor public setting?
This post was edited on 4/13/16 at 10:17 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/13/16 at 10:36 pm to
So let the owners choose what they want to do, right? Seems to me if banning smoking in your bar would be more profitable, you'd ban smoking in your bar. If allowing smoking is more profitable, you'd allow smoking
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27573 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:46 pm to
quote:


And then nobody hangs out inside, and the bar makes less money. I have spoken with bartenders, managers


All short sided. There is a hiccup of protest and smokers stay home. But not for long.

Everything goes back to normal. With a patio.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:51 pm to
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All short sided. There is a hiccup of protest and smokers stay home. But not for long.

Everything goes back to normal. With a patio.


This. I lol at the arguments being made as if they are somehow novel. They have been made in every other jurisdiction where bans have been put into place, and the bars have survived.
Posted by Monday
Prairieville
Member since Mar 2013
5132 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:52 pm to
Damn. I was really hoping to huddle around a heater with 15 other people during the cold of winter.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Damn. I was really hoping to huddle around a heater with 15 other people during the cold of winter.


During the two weeks in Baton Rouge when it dips below 40 degrees? People up here have survived during the winters.
Posted by LSUAfro
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
12775 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:10 pm to
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Good. Private business owners should decide what goes on inside their establishments
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:18 pm to
I am talking about longterm. Bars in New Orleans are still affected by the smoking ban. Most of the bars don't have room to add a patio and get in trouble for people talking out front in the wee hours of the morning
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69484 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:20 pm to
“We’re not going away,” Rhodes said, adding that her coalition will make voters aware of which council members “denied thousands of people clean air at work.”

is she going after local refineries also?

Also funny that all those employees have a choice in where they decide to work
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:23 pm to
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Bars in New Orleans are still affected by the smoking ban.


How so?
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:24 pm to
And the people have a choice what bar to go to, but the bar owners don't get a choice


All of you people are hypocritical as frick. You bitch and bitch about SJWs all day long and guess what you are by supporting this ban? That's right, a SJW
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:35 pm to
Do you know what people go into business for?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:39 pm to
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guess what you are by supporting this ban? That's right, a SJW


Nah.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

Do you know what people go into business for?


No. What could they possibly go into business for? I have absolutely no experience in business-related matters. None at all. Zero. Nada.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
15861 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

I don't need to go home and put my shirt through two wash cycles to get your perfume or someone else's cat hair out of my clothes


You could solve YOUR problem by not going to said venue if you don't like it. It's really very simple.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:41 pm to
Yup, quit lying to yourself. Look at what a SJW does, how she does it, and what she stands for
quote:

have absolutely no experience in business-related matters. None at all. Zero. Nada.
Then you wouldn't have asked that question. I laid out the specific problems in an earlier post
This post was edited on 4/14/16 at 2:42 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62347 posts
Posted on 4/14/16 at 2:42 pm to
The hysterics about this are funny. You sound like a crying little girl. My point is that all of your arguments have been made before in areas that have passed bans, and bars have survived.
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