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Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:44 pm to Breauxsif
This is the face an of 8 on the IQ test.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 7:58 pm to jrodLSUke
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7 years for murder
It says he was 14 when arrested on that charge. Juvenile sentencing laws may have limited what the court could impose.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:15 pm to Twenty 49
How is 300k acquired in a scenario like this?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:27 pm to TDsngumbo
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Call Hillar Moore’s office and ask them about it.
Should we be asking Fred Crifasi too? Why did this POS get a bond?
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:37 pm to bayoubengals88
Probably $30k from his grandma on a property bond and the other $270,000 from a bail bondsman knowing he’s a career criminal and will be arrested again and be forced to make his court date 
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:42 pm to Breauxsif
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District Attorney Hillar Moore
frick HILLAR MOORE
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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He should not have had bail at all.
That is a very, very high burden to carry. The relevant article of the Louisiana Constitution:
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18. Right to Bail
Section 18.(A) Excessive bail shall not be required. Before and during a trial, a person shall be bailable by sufficient surety, except when he is charged with a capital offense and the proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great. After conviction and before sentencing, a person shall be bailable if the maximum sentence which may be imposed is imprisonment for five years or less; and the judge may grant bail if the maximum sentence which may be imposed is imprisonment exceeding five years. After sentencing and until final judgment, a person shall be bailable if the sentence actually imposed is five years or less; and the judge may grant bail if the sentence actually imposed exceeds imprisonment for five years.
(B) However, a person charged with a crime of violence as defined by law or with production, manufacture, distribution, or dispensing or possession with intent to produce, manufacture, distribute, or dispense a controlled dangerous substance as defined by the Louisiana Controlled Dangerous Substances Law, and the proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great, shall not be bailable if, after a contradictory hearing, the judge or magistrate finds by clear and convincing evidence that there is a substantial risk that the person may flee or poses an imminent danger to any other person or the community.
Acts 1997, No. 1498, §1, approved Oct. 3, 1998, eff. Nov. 5, 1998.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:45 pm to Breauxsif
This is why no one believes anything Moore or Murphey say. They rarely arrest and convict them. When they do, they are released to repeat offend. The entire system is ineffective.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:45 pm to jrodLSUke
Well seven years is the minimum for manslaughter!
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:46 pm to Breauxsif
Our criminal judges are the best aren’t they.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:46 pm to Joshjrn
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the person may flee or poses an imminent danger to any other person or the community.
Seems like a low burden. He’s already killed once.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:48 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Seems like a low burden. He’s already killed once.
You skipped a fairly important part:
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and the proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great
Very, very high burden to meet.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:48 pm to Breauxsif
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Court records show Bailey pleaded guilty in 2019 to a manslaughter charge. He was given 10 years in prison but only served seven before he was released.
How does this work? He plead guilty in 2019 and served 7 years. Isn’t that 2025?
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:51 pm to ELLSSUU
I don’t know exactly how the system works. I’m not sure that the system knows exactly how the system works. But I think we can all agree the system, however it works, is working great. Especially in Baton Rouge.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:52 pm to ELLSSUU
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How does this work? He plead guilty in 2019 and served 7 years. Isn’t that 2025?
Case dragged a while. Looks like he was remanded in 2014.
This post was edited on 9/21/22 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:55 pm to Joshjrn
Gotcha-so he was in jail during the case and got time served.
Thank you
Thank you
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:57 pm to ELLSSUU
This is unbelievable.
This article is from the Advocate in 2019. Deren Baily was 21 in 2019 but 14 in 2012.
He was 14 yrs old participating in a kick-door home invasion robbery/murder. Wow.
This article is from the Advocate in 2019. Deren Baily was 21 in 2019 but 14 in 2012.
He was 14 yrs old participating in a kick-door home invasion robbery/murder. Wow.
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The murder convictions of two Baton Rouge men and the life prison terms they received in separate 2012 shootings were affirmed Friday by a state appellate court.
Roman Montrell Trosclair was found guilty of second-degree murder and attempted second-degree murder in the May 14, 2012 slaying of Dederick Droze, 24, and wounding of another man on Oak Park Drive.
Trosclair, 35, was given a mandatory life sentence plus a consecutive 50-year prison term.
In an unrelated fatal shooting six months later in 2012, 27-year-old Benjamin Bailey was found guilty of second-degree murder in the Nov. 6, 2012 home-invasion slaying of Derrick Marioneaux, 34, on Wyandotte Street.
Bailey also received an automatic life prison term.
His 21-year-old brother, Derian Bailey, and their 28-year-old cousin, Juan Herbert, pleaded guilty to manslaughter in the killing and were sentenced to 10 years and 25 years in prison, respectively.
The 1st Circuit Court of Appeal on Friday rejected claims by Trosclair and Benjamin Bailey that the evidence was insufficient to support their respective convictions.
In the Trosclair case, the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office said Droze and another man picked up Trosclair and drove to a convenience store in the 6000 block of Oak Park Drive. After leaving the store, Trosclair fired shots at Droze and the other man while all three men were in the car, the Sheriff's Office said.
Detectives used surveillance video from a nearby convenience store to identify Trosclair.
In appealing his convictions and sentences, Trosclair argues the state failed to identify him as the shooter. The man wounded in the shooting initially identified someone other than Trosclair as the triggerman. The wounded man testified he did not know Trosclair but recognized him as the person who shot him after seeing Trosclair's picture on television.
The 1st Circuit Court of Appeal said the jury chose to believe the wounded victim's eyewitness testimony.
"Positive identification by only one witness is sufficient to support a conviction," Circuit Judge Guy Holdridge wrote Friday for a three-judge panel of the court that included Judges Page McClendon and Jewel "Duke" Welch.
Holdridge noted that Trosclair's DNA was found on the rear, exterior passenger door handle of the car in which the shooting occurred.
"In finding the defendant guilty, the jury clearly rejected the defense's theory of misidentification," he wrote. The jury voted unanimously to convict Trosclair.
In the home-invasion case involving the Bailey brothers, Baton Rouge police accused the brothers and their cousin of kicking in Derrick Marioneaux's front door and opening fire as he sat at his table eating a meal. Derian Bailey, a juvenile at the time, inadvertently shot Herbert during the incident, police said.
Marioneaux's wife told authorities that two of the men were wearing ski masks.
Benjamin Bailey argues that his identity as one of the perpetrators was not established at his trial. Herbert, who initially told police he was injured in a drive-by shooting on Plank Road, testified that Benjamin Bailey was armed with a shotgun at Marioneaux's house. Trial testimony indicated the shotgun was fired inside the house.
The same 1st Circuit panel that decided the Trosclair case said in Benjamin Bailey's case that the evidence established the Bailey brothers and Herbert were together and remained together before, during and after the shooting.
"After a thorough review of the record, we find the evidence negates any reasonable probability of misidentification and supports the jury's unanimous guilty verdict," Holdridge wrote.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 8:59 pm to ELLSSUU
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Gotcha-so he was in jail during the case and got time served.
Thank you
Yep yep.
Posted on 9/21/22 at 9:01 pm to Joshjrn
What are your thoughts on Hillar Moore? Obviously you’ve gone up against his office. Is he adequately serving the citizens of Baton Rouge?
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