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re: BR convicted killer out on bond, behind the wheel during deadly police chase Monday.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:21 pm to Joshjrn
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:21 pm to Joshjrn
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But shitting on good judges who are genuinely trying to get it right is chickenshit.
I'll shite on Fred Crifasi all day every day ..... he was a dumbass attorney and is a dumbass judge!
Screw you - you know damn well what goes down 'in chambers' IF you are really acquainted w/ the 19th JDC like you claim.
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Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:24 pm to Joshjrn
I’m referring back to an article I read that admittedly was poorly written so I wasn’t sure if he had masks and weapons that time plus found in his car after the crash a few days ago. You have access to information so that’s why I asked you.
ETA: to be clear he was not found with weapons or masks (ever) prior to the crash?
Also ETA: did the state protest his bond at any point?
ETA: to be clear he was not found with weapons or masks (ever) prior to the crash?
Also ETA: did the state protest his bond at any point?
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:25 pm to Swoozie
That’s what I understood from Paul in the press conference
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:25 pm to teke184
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There have been prior cases in EBR where a judge set bond on a guy arrested and brought in only for another judge to come in behind them and slash the bond amount by roughly 90%.
Then I would force them to overrule me. At least the blood would be on someone else's hands.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:27 pm to Swoozie
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I’m referring back to an article I read that admittedly was poorly written so I wasn’t sure if he had masks and weapons that time plus found in his car after the crash a few days ago. You have access to information so that’s why I asked you.
As far as I can tell, the weapons and mask are from the most recent arrest. Regardless, I don’t know if weapons and masks being in the car would speak to his guilt in an offense that allegedly occurred four years ago
But I didn’t intend to be aggressive in my last post. I apologize if that’s how it came off
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ETA: to be clear he was not found with weapons or masks (ever) prior to the crash? Also ETA: did the state protest his bond at any point?
Neither are clear from the record at this point.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:28 pm to Joshjrn
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That has nothing to do with his $300k bond.
It should have everything to do with it: commit another felony while out on bail should result in an automatic revocation of the initial bond.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:28 pm to Joshjrn
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imminent danger to any other person or the community.
So this would not apply to a person that is already a convicted killer, on trial for another killing?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:29 pm to Cymry Teigr
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It should have everything to do with it: commit another felony while out on bail should result in an automatic revocation of the initial bond.
I meant that it has nothing to do with the initial setting. I’ve already said it’s likely a hold will be placed on him for violating that bond.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:31 pm to Joshjrn
And was he not on parole?
Doesn't that play a role?
Doesn't that play a role?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:31 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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So this would not apply to a person that is already a convicted killer, on trial for another killing?
You’re missing the and. That prong would be easy to satisfy. You also have to show that “proof is evident and the presumption of guilt is great” for the actual arrested offense.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:32 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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And was he not on parole? Doesn't that play a role?
No idea. Not something I can look up.
And potentially, yes, but more of a question for the office of probation and parole to place a hold on him than it is a question regarding the setting of bond.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:32 pm to Joshjrn
No I'm not.
The convicted killer part should satisfy both.
Also, was he not on parole?
The convicted killer part should satisfy both.
Also, was he not on parole?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:33 pm to jbgleason
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the Judge gives him a substantial $300,000 bail for which he posts bond and is released
Here is the problem- the 330k bond is ridiculous considering he was already convicted of numerous crimes. Did the judge even look at his voluminous criminal history?
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:34 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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No I'm not. The convicted killer part should satisfy both. Also, was he not on parole?
If you’re positing that the fact the he was previously convicted of manslaughter would meet the outlined standard of proof for his guilt in the newly arrested offense, then yes, I’m saying that would be flat wrong.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:36 pm to Joshjrn
What is the standard of proof?
It was going to trial, yes?
So, there was apparently enough evidence for that. What level of additional evidence is required?
We are talking about just holding him without bail, not proof of his guilt.
It was going to trial, yes?
So, there was apparently enough evidence for that. What level of additional evidence is required?
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outlined standard of proof for his guilt
We are talking about just holding him without bail, not proof of his guilt.
This post was edited on 9/22/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:37 pm to Breauxsif
Hillar Moore working for Soros.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:40 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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We are talking about just holding him without bail, not proof of his guilt.
I genuinely don’t know how to explain this concept any differently, beyond simply repeating that yes, there would have to be proof of his guilt of the current offense that is “evident” such that the “presumption of guilt is great” of the current offense. And no, a conviction from an offense that occurred almost a decade ago wouldn’t come close to meeting that standard.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:42 pm to Joshjrn
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As far as I can tell, the weapons and mask are from the most recent arrest. Regardless, I don’t know if weapons and masks being in the car would speak to his guilt in an offense that allegedly occurred four years ago
What I’m getting at is setting a low bond if he did in fact have weapons and masks seems like a personal decision rather than “trying to do the right thing” and strictly following the law. If the law was always followed to the letter then most of us would accept your argument. We all know it can be bent to make certain things happen but rarely it seems when it comes to repeat offenders.
As to doing the right thing, clearly biases come into play (I’ll be nice and leave out bribes and backroom deals for now). As a judge you would clearly have a bias as a defense attorney so IMO your “right thing” would be to err on the side of the defense.
I appreciate the apology. I didn’t think you were aggressive towards me but I do feel like you’re defending actions that put a career criminal back on the streets to murder again. I get having a job to do as a criminal defense attorney but don’t you ever get tired of all of the crime that happens as a direct result of the policies you defend? Are you somehow able to segregate yourself from these criminals? Do you not worry about family and friends going about their daily lives? I would think you would have an even better idea of how fricked up this is than those of us not involved it every day.
To be clear I am not being aggressive towards you. I genuinely want to know because some of us have been directly affected by people like him and the policies that allowed him to be out on the streets ready to rob/murder again.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:45 pm to Joshjrn
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If you’re positing that the fact the he was previously convicted of manslaughter would meet the outlined standard of proof for his guilt in the newly arrested offense, then yes, I’m saying that would be flat wrong.
Holy shite. The system is FUBAR.
Posted on 9/22/22 at 2:46 pm to Swoozie
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et having a job to do as a criminal defense attorney but don’t you ever get tired of all of the crime that happens as a direct result of the policies you defend? Are you somehow able to segregate yourself from these criminals? Do you not worry about family and friends going about their daily lives? I
Hahahha. All he sees is money. He doesn’t live or interact with anyone he defends outside of court. It’s the typical lib mindset. Don’t care if it doesn’t mess with mine.
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